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It costs money to register to vote. One has to pay for a stamp if they mail the form in, gasoline or bus fare if they drive a car or ride the bus to the registrars office, and money for food to give them the energy to walk it there if they do that.
The same applies to getting to a polling place.
What's so bad about requiring id?
Nothing is free.
Actually, I have never invested a dime into updating my voter registration, about 20 times, over my life. Always visited the BOE in passing and used their forms, even used their pen.
To come up with a photo id, assume I didn't have one, I would have to get a new birth certificate by returning to my birth state and county. I would have to provide the proper documentation to that records department. Might need to visit several places to gather that documentation, first. I believe the birth certificate takes at least a week to produce. If all goes well, they mail it to me in a week or two. Cost, about $28.50 and several hours of my time. Say I need a SS card, I would have to Invest the same kinda time and effort. Now I can go get my state issued ID and hope they issue it based on the documents I have. Cost, about $12 with a multitude of huddles.
You need to look at this process from the perspective of the ppl that live without an ID, mostly they are poor to extremely poor. They have little or no access to a car, on average a car costs about $8,000 a year to own and operate, well beyond the means of many. By my estimate, I would need to travel about 180 miles and invest about 8 to 10 hours into record collection, travel and waiting in lines spread over a month or more. I make a mistake, don't have the right papers or hit a road block and "costs" balloon.
Not sure about anyone else's state, but my state is scaling back office hours for local, county and state offices. Offices that were open 9 to 5, 5 days a week might be open Monday, Wednesday and Friday now. Long lines, busy signals and delayed responses are the new normal.
If you're going to impose a NEW requirement on a voter it is incumbent on you to streamline the path to fulfilling that requirement. Anything less and these ALEC ID laws are voter suppression laws.
It costs money to register to vote. One has to pay for a stamp if they mail the form in, gasoline or bus fare if they drive a car or ride the bus to the registrars office, and money for food to give them the energy to walk it there if they do that.
The same applies to getting to a polling place.
What's so bad about requiring id?
Nothing is free.
I think I might have passed a booth for a political group with forms for registering voters and they helped, it took little effort. I went to the polls on foot, I don't think the amount of calories burned was significant.
Many elderly and non-drivers have expired ID, it's a tedious process to get an ID.
yes she has a need..EVERYONE has a need to show who they are
quit being SELFISH..just because you dont want to conform to society
Clearly, EVERYONE doesn't have a need to show who they are. If they aren't going to places that demand an ID, if they aren't doing things that require licenses, then they don't have a need for an ID. And it's not society that's demanding that they get an ID.
Seems I need a photo id to get a birth certificate, and a need a birth certificate to get a photo id... Anyone notice the problem I will encounter???
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The cost is $25.00 for each certified copy. You may pay the cashiers using cash, check or a money order (Must have an Ohio personal check and Ohio driver's license).
I dunno 'bout Hitler, but state licensing agencies routinely survey long term care facilities.
The surveyor will expect individual patients to be properly identified.
SORRY.
I DO that - I am a NY State Certified Long Tern Care Facility Ombudsman, and in all my visits I have never asked for, nor been requested by the State to ask for, an ID for any resident.
Now - some facilities (maybe all) DO take pictures of the residents when they enter so the staff is able to identify them. But that does not serve as a valid State issued ID.
Clearly, EVERYONE doesn't have a need to show who they are. If they aren't going to places that demand an ID, if they aren't doing things that require licenses, then they don't have a need for an ID. And it's not society that's demanding that they get an ID.
At the very minimum everyone needs a state ID to function in this society unless they never get sick, never fly, never cash a check or open a bank acct. and the list goes on and on. Just what are the odds that someone would never do any of those things in their entire lives?
At the very minimum everyone needs a state ID to function in this society unless they never get sick, never fly, never cash a check or open a bank acct. and the list goes on and on. Just what are the odds that someone would never do any of those things in their entire lives?
I've never used an ID for medical reasons, I have used it to fly, but there are many Americans who don't fly, I don't cash checks, I deposit them, and I've had the same bank account for decades, and didn't need ID to open the bank account all those years ago. I haven't been asked for identification once in the past five years (except to vote-where it isn't required, but it is requested). Not to purchase alcohol, not even to make a credit card purchase (though they keep asking me for my zip code when I make debit purchases at retail stores).
The simple fact of the matter is that while I drive and so do have ID, it's not something that I actually use. And I don't carry it on me at all times. I don't carry it on me when I walk the dog. Quite often, when I go out to a function, I don't carry it on me. If I go out with friends to a movie, I often leave it at home because cash is all I need and I can put that in a pocket, and leave the pocketbook at home.
I've know several elderly women in my area who've never needed ID for any reason. They don't drive, their husbands do all the driving. They don't work outside the home. They simply don't need any ID. And to demand that they get an ID in order to vote is putting an impediment in the way of their voting. It may not be a major impediment, but it's still an impediment. And that is wrong.
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