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You're wrong as usual. To even get in the building, City Hall, you need a photo ID. If I didn't have a photo id I couldn't get into the building where the documents are held that you need to get a photo id... Irony???
So, using my DL to get in I was able to order my BC, AFTER SHOWING MY PHOTO ID AGAIN.
Costs, 56 miles, $25 for BC, $2.25 to park for an hour, and just under three hours travel time, filling out form and waiting in a four deep line... Of course, if I didn't have an id already I would still be at square one.
Blah, blah, blah....
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PRIMARY ACCEPTABLE DOCUMENTS
(Must include Date of Birth)
• CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH - Either an original or certified copy, with a seal, and issued by an appropriate government agency
• CERTIFIED COPY OF COURT ORDER - Must contain the full name and date of birth of the applicant
• CONCEALED WEAPONS PERMIT – A valid Ohio issued permit with photograph
• DRIVER LICENSE - Any state, territory, or possession of the United States, with photograph, current or expired not more than six months
• MILITARY IDENTIFICATION - A valid United States military service or dependent identification document with photograph
• OFFENDERS RELEASE IDENTIFCATION CARD - Valid card issued by the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction or DYS Department of
Youth Services; containing the person’s photograph, name, date of birth and Social Security Number
• STATE ISSUED IDENTIFICATION CARD – Issued by any state, territory, or possession of the United States, with photograph, current or expired not
more than six months
• STATE ISSUED LEARNERS PERMIT - Issued by any state, territory, or possession of the United States, with photograph, current or expired not
more than six months
• UNITED STATES CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION SERVICE (USCIS) DOCUMENTS - Must be an original and valid, or like documents issued by
the successor agency to the USCIS
• VALID PASSPORT - A valid United States Passport or Passport Card, with photograph or a passport with photograph from another country
accompanied by appropriate USCIS documents
• Any other genuine and reliable document approved by the BMV Registrar (not deputy registrar)
NOTE: Additional documentation may be required if the documentation provided is questionable. Contact must be made by Deputy Registrar to the
BMV License Control Help Desk for more information
SECONDARY ACCEPTABLE DOCUMENTS
(Must include the Social Security Number (SSN) if not on the primary document)
• BUREAU OF AMERICAN INDIAN AFFAIRS CARD or AMERICAN INDIAN TREATY CARD - Tribal Identification card is not acceptable
• CERTIFIED COPY OF A COURT ORDER – With or without the date of birth
• CREDIT CARD
• EMPLOYER IDENTIFICATION CARD - With photograph
• FOREIGN BIRTH CERTIFICATE - Accompanied by a translation by an approved translator if the birth certificate is not in English
• GUN PERMIT-With photograph
• HEALTH INSURANCE CARD – Current and valid
• INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE OR STATE TAX FORM - Issued by the appropriate governmental agency within the last 3 years. W-2 forms are not
acceptable
• MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE – Or marriage license
• MEDICAL RECORDS – From a doctor or hospital
• MILITARY DISCHARGE DOCUMENTATION – Military separation papers
• MOTOR VEHICLE TITLE – Vehicle Registration is not acceptable
• PILOT’S LICENSE
• PUBLIC ASSISTANCE BENEFIT CARD – Issued by a governmental agency
• SCHOOL RECORD OR TRANSCRIPT - Must be certified copy.
• SOCIAL SECURITY DOCUMENTATION – An official Social Security card or number identification (numident) printout issued by the Social
Security Administration Metal card is not acceptable.
• STUDENT IDENTIFICATION CARD - With photograph issued by a recognized school or university.
• VOTER REGISTRATION CARD
• Any other genuine and reliable document approved by the BMV Registrar (not deputy registrar).
NOTE: Additional documentation may be required if the documentation provided is questionable. Contact must be made by Deputy Registrar to
the BMV License Control Help Desk for more information.
PROOF OF U.S. CITIZENSHIP OR LEGAL PRESENCE
• CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH - either an original or certified copy, with a seal and issued by an appropriate governmental agency of any state, territory, or
possession of the United States
• A UNITED STATES PASSPORT
• A UNITED STATES PASSPORT CARD
• A NATURALIZATION DOCUMENT – issued by the United States
• Appropriate United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) documents which are original and valid, or like documents issued by the
successor agency to the USCIS showing the dates of legal presence
PROOF OF RESIDENCY IN OHIO
If the primary and secondary documents presented do not establish the applicant's current Ohio resident street address, the applicant shall present
additional documents containing the applicant's name and current address within Ohio to establish that address to the satisfaction of the registrar or
deputy registrar. A post office box or other mail box address is not acceptable. The following documents shall be acceptable if the applicant's current
Ohio residence street address is included in the document:
• Certification of residency from a nursing home or homeless shelter on a Certified Statement of Residency (BMV 2336) form
• Change of Address Card – Issued by the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles
• Checking, savings account, and online bank statements within the last sixty days
• Child support check stub from Ohio Department of Job and Family Services
• Copy of federal or Ohio income tax return filing not more than eighteen months old, with proof of filing
• Court order of probation, order of parole, or order of mandatory release
• Current and valid premises liability, life insurance, or automobile liability policy OR card with address
• In the case of a dependent child, the BMV may accept a Certified Statement of Residency (BMV 2336) form from the child's parent or guardian,
signed in the presence of a BMV official
• In the case of a married person, the BMV may accept a Certified Statement of Residency (BMV 2336) form from the applicant's spouse, signed in the
presence of a BMV official. Proof of marital relationship is required
• Installment loan contract from a bank or other financial institution
• Major credit card statement or major retail store credit card statement with Ohio street address issued within the last 60 days
• Mortgage account or proof of home ownership
• Ohio BMV Vehicle Registration Mail-In Renewal Notice
• Ohio Certificate of Title
• Ohio resident hunting or fishing license, current or previous year
• Paycheck stub issued within the last six months
• Professional license issued by an Ohio governmental agency
• Property tax bill or receipt
• Public assistance check stub or food stamp card issued by a governmental agency, or letter on government agency letterhead, within the last 12
months
• Sales tax or business license
• School records
• Selective Service registration acknowledgement card
• Social Security Administration document with Ohio street address
• Transportation Security Administration (TSA) letter
• Utility bill (from an electric, telephone, water, sewer, cable, satellite, heating oil, or propane provider) issued within the last sixty days
• Valid concealed weapons permit
• Valid Ohio voter registration card
• Any other genuine and reliable document approved by the BMV Registrar (not deputy registrar)
NOTE: Additional documentation may be required if the documentation provided is questionable. Contact must be made by Deputy Registrar to
the BMV License Control Help Desk for more information.
So, you're saying that the act of voting now becomes a multi-step process that begins several months before an election??? Miss a deadline in August and you cannot vote in November??? Seem fair to you?
Agreed. If you don't have a bc and are old enough to vote you should have one sent to you. There is no excuse not to.
Agreed. If you don't have a bc and are old enough to vote you should have one sent to you. There is no excuse not to.
That isn't a problem for me, but for hundreds of thousands of others, the homeless, the extremely poor, the disabled, the handicapped, etc. You might as well exclude many of them from voting now.
With the "fine print" built into these laws hundreds of thousands of LEGAL voters are going to be turned away on election day for no other reason than the photo ID they do possess and which they believe is good fails the tests imposed by these laws.
Further, expect huge delays and extremely long lines during the voting process as the poll workers scramble to screen voters and their paperwork.
Student ID's??? Yep, as long as the student provides other documents. How many are going to be standing in line thinking their state issued student photo id is good...
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University and college students may use their student photo ID in conjunction with a fee payment receipt that contains the student’s residential address dated no earlier than nine months before the election. University and college students may also use their student photo ID if the university or college has provided a certified list to the municipal clerk of students, containing the students’ residential addresses and indicating which students are U.S. citizens.
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Agreed. If you don't have a bc and are old enough to vote you should have one sent to you. There is no excuse not to.
You're speaking as if everyone was born starting in 1980. Newsflash - some folks DON'T have a bc. Some older folks were born at home. Many of these older folks used a church certificate of baptism all their life. If a state decides that's not good enough now, with a new law, then what? Decades of being able to vote go down the drain. They've worked all their lives, they've voted, they've bought homes, vehicles, owned land - and now they can't vote.
I don't disagree with a voter id law, but it should be passed at the federal level and made consistent. For example, Texas will allow you to show your NRA card, with NO photo to pass as identification --- but won't allow you to use your college ID with your photo on there. How dumb is that? It should also state that anyone born after 1980 (for example) is subject to the law, anyone born before stays under the old rules. There is little to no actual voter fraud, so you're not talking about anything substantial being an issue at the ballot. That way both sides compromise and get what they're looking for.
Oh gosh, did I say that out loud? Compromise? What was I thinking?
My state requires photo IDs. It hasn't been an issue here.
We don't know what state that might be, so we don't know if legal voters have been disenfranchised by these ALEC laws, do we? Just your word, kinda like mittens and his taxes... Oh and we know how he did that tale my word for it when he commited voter fraud himself...
Preventing hundreds of thousands of legal voters from voting to prevent the possibility that a couple of fraudulent votes get cast... Yep the GOP is all over that idea.
TSA screening all passengers before boarding planes that have been used as missiles by the terrorists in the past. GOP feels this is an invasion of their civil rights.
Any restrictions to gun ownership after thousands of cases of legal gun owners using guns to hurt others. The GOP feels this is an invasion of their civil rights.
Seems that the GOP is only in favor of restrictive laws and restrictions on civil rights when is aids their quest for power.
You're speaking as if everyone was born starting in 1980. Newsflash - some folks DON'T have a bc. Some older folks were born at home. Many of these older folks used a church certificate of baptism all their life. If a state decides that's not good enough now, with a new law, then what? Decades of being able to vote go down the drain. They've worked all their lives, they've voted, they've bought homes, vehicles, owned land - and now they can't vote.
I don't disagree with a voter id law, but it should be passed at the federal level and made consistent. For example, Texas will allow you to show your NRA card, with NO photo to pass as identification --- but won't allow you to use your college ID with your photo on there. How dumb is that? It should also state that anyone born after 1980 (for example) is subject to the law, anyone born before stays under the old rules. There is little to no actual voter fraud, so you're not talking about anything substantial being an issue at the ballot. That way both sides compromise and get what they're looking for.
Oh gosh, did I say that out loud? Compromise? What was I thinking?
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