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First, he was given no such warning. (When he told the dispatcher he was following Martin, he was told "We don't need you to do that," to which he replied "OK," and so far as we can tell, stopped following.) Second, even if he had been given such a warning, he would not have been required to "obey" it unless he was doing something illegal.
Blah, blah, blah ! Whatever, dude. I don't care. I WAS VOICING MY OPINION...WHETHER YOU AGREE OR NOT!!! REALLY DON'T CARE !!
I have no doubt that the media is/was trying desperately to spin this story one way - and one way only.
Still, if Zimmerman had not left his car, none of this would have happened... He did, even after being advised by cops not to do so - and ultimately, he created this situation.
Again...you don't know that. According to zimmerman, martin had disappeared and he got out to see if he could see where he went....when he went back to his car, martin met him there and attaked him.
So....IF the events happened like that, then I would blame martin's death more on martin himself. Still...nobody really knows. While zimmerman may have shown poor judgement even getting out of his car, if martin initiagted the attack then ultimagtely HE...martin....is to blame for his own death. Either way it is tragic.
Maybe state laws are different there, but here (CA) anyone with a CCW can take a gun into a bank. We can even carry a gun into a school. Posting a sign does not make something illegal. If I decide to post a sign saying nobody can park in front of my street, guess what? People can still legally park there. You're right that people with CCW's usually carry their weapon everywhere they go. That certainly doesn't make them unhinged.
What exactly, is the point of having a CCW, if you don't carry the weapon with you? It makes no sense, whatsoever, to get a CCW and not carry a gun. Moreover, just because you carry a concealed weapon, doesn't mean you are "out to find trouble." You are merely trying to defend yourself, or someone else, IF the needs arise.
I don't decide how much force to use on a suspect; they decide how much force I use.
Apparently the fact that the police even said this doesn't seem to matter. They clearly said that the entire incident was avoidable had Zimmerman stayed in his car and waited for the police instead of taking matters into his own hands.
It wouldn't have happened if gz stayed in his car or met the cops in the mailboxes or a lot of other things. Ok ? Though the cops or others stating that might make some people feel good, it doesn't address whether or not gz commited a crime when he killed tm.
I know; it's reprehensible that people try to demonize a dead teen. In a civilized society this would be seen as the tragedy that it is...apparently America has a long way to go before we meet that criteria. When people ignore Jeb Bush, the police, the co-sponsors of Florida's SYG law and the ME, you know that you've left the realm of rational people and crossed into an area where human decency has no place. Again...like the birthers, this case has become a delusion for what I can only take to be people with no boundaries beyond their own sickness and perversion. No pity, no compassion, no soul.
So far the only statement from someone with actual knowledge of the facts is from Zimmerman himself, and keep in mind that he made this statement before any other eyewitness had given their statement. By that I mean, he had no idea if anyone would be contradicting his statement, so he is more likely to have stated what he knows as fact. He stated he was returning to his vehicle when TM made contact with him from the rear. He said TM said, " Why are you following me?" GZ replied, "What are you doing here?" Before anything else could be said TM popped GM in the mouth and the rest is history. So far there has been no credible evidence to the contrary.
Your assumptions have already been contradicted by other witnesses, specifically about what was said when GZ and TM spoke and what they said was overheard by the person TM was talking to on the phone.
It's difficult to see "credible evidence" through the haze of bias.
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