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View Poll Results: Would you like to see same-sex marriage become legal where you live?
It is already legal where I live 18 6.02%
Yes 184 61.54%
No 92 30.77%
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Old 08-12-2010, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Wherever I go...
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LOL...well I Guess That You Can't Be A Homosexual , but maybe a Lesbian or worst of ALL A HETEROSEXUAL....


Everybody has FREE WILL BECAUSE GOD Is A Gentleman and doesn't demand that everybody bend to his WILL...Everybody just
has to be ready to accept the REWARDS and Punishment.....

The BIBLE makes a very interesting STATEMENT THAT GOD KNOWS
THE ENDING BEFORE THE BEGINNING....I guess that means that he
has ALL INFORMATION and KNOWLEDGE IN HIS HEAD..WHICH DOESN'T take FREE WILL out of the HANDS OF MANKIND.....he
just knows what everyone is going to do ahead of TIME.
Holy wow... again.

You really don't realize how little sense that makes, do you?
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Old 08-12-2010, 05:59 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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Holy wow... again.

You really don't realize how little sense that makes, do you?
WOW..you're cooking with GAS now GOD plainly tells MANKIND
That YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND { ME }..............LOL..FOMC...
FALLING >>OUT>>OF>>MY>>>CHAIR.....
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Old 08-12-2010, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Long Beach
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The only reason why the Governator's name is on the lawsuit to begin with is the fact that it's his state's law that was being sued.

He never supported it to begin with, so it would make sense that he'd subtly sabotage it by putting imbeciles up to defend it.
The State of California never ever never was in the Court. It {the great state of California} absolved Itself from having to defend the law. The excutive branch of a free republic can do that.

The defense were private citizens arguing ultimately on their own behalf.
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Old 08-12-2010, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Wherever I go...
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WOW..you're cooking with GAS now GOD plainly tells MANKIND
That YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND { ME }..............LOL..FOMC...
FALLING >>OUT>>OF>>MY>>>CHAIR.....
It's really a good thing God isn't relying on you for his marketing campaign.
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Old 08-12-2010, 06:31 PM
 
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The defense were private citizens arguing ultimately on their own behalf.
Yup, which is what makes it very likely the 9th will refuse to hear the case, and possibly SCOTUS as well - which kind of bums me out. I'm still hopeful it'll go all the way, but without the state electing to defend itself, the Prop8 people don't seem to have a legal grounds for appeal.
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Old 08-12-2010, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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Yup, which is what makes it very likely the 9th will refuse to hear the case, and possibly SCOTUS as well - which kind of bums me out. I'm still hopeful it'll go all the way, but without the state electing to defend itself, the Prop8 people don't seem to have a legal grounds for appeal.
My gut is telling me they're going to want to weigh in on this.
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http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/content/..._id=0000000472

Perry v. Schwarzenegger

Challenge to "Proposition 8"
10-16696 (Main appeal)
10-16751 (Intervenor appeal)

"Due to the level of interest in this case, this site has been created to notify the media and public of procedures and rules for admission to proceedings, as well as access to case information."
Just my gut, though, no legal precedent to back it up. I highly doubt they'll want to sit this one out, and will find some obscure, little-known precedent to give the appellants standing to be heard.
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Old 08-12-2010, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Long Beach
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Yup, which is what makes it very likely the 9th will refuse to hear the case, and possibly SCOTUS as well - which kind of bums me out. I'm still hopeful it'll go all the way, but without the state electing to defend itself, the Prop8 people don't seem to have a legal grounds for appeal.
true true, well my native state will take the DOMA case straight to the SCOTUS. That will be a huge step in the right direction.

America is changing, that is an undeniable fact. The Right has a choice to make. It can resist the change and be lost to history and obscurity, or they can become like Ted Olson, and fight for the Constitution and our republicans ideals.
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Old 08-12-2010, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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They have already made that choice. These people who are being separated out eat breathe and worship control over all else. It is not up to anyone. We are witnessing a separation of wheat from chaff.

This is natures choice an opting for the survival of the species, and the laws being relatively natural instruments in the hands of rational citizens are aligned to natural selection.

Sorry haters. Time's up.....all over the world.
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Old 08-12-2010, 10:19 PM
 
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I HAVE read Genesis, several times, in fact. Again I ask you where I can find a description of the wedding ceremony for Adam and Eve. Because there is no such description in Genesis.


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26 God said, 'Let us make man in our own image, in the likeness of ourselves, and let them be masters of the fish of the sea, the birds of heaven, the cattle, all the wild animals and all the creatures that creep along the ground.'
27 God created man in the image of himself, in the image of God he created him, male and female he created them.
28 God blessed them, saying to them, 'Be fruitful, multiply, fill the earth and subdue it. Be masters of the fish of the sea, the birds of heaven and all the living creatures that move on earth.'

closest thing i found on a wedding wasnt a traditional wedding ceremony that we see today but thats what it was
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Old 08-12-2010, 11:37 PM
 
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he has ALL INFORMATION and KNOWLEDGE IN HIS HEAD..WHICH DOESN'T take FREE WILL out of the HANDS OF MANKIND.....he
just knows what everyone is going to do ahead of TIME.
If the outcome of all decisions can be known ahead of time, everything is predestined - and that removes free will. If all our actions are are decided ahead of time, we are doomed to go through life as puppets, with our minds relegated to the role of thinking up rationalizations.

Of course, the absence of free will also removes responsibility. And the entire salvation thing goes by the wayside, as well. It's predetermined who'll be saved and who goes to Hell. And eternal torment for something we can't influence seems a little heavy-handed to me, truth be told.
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