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I guess a lot of you have never been to the UK? Pub culture is very different there.
It's not just the UK, I'm sitting here completely puzzled as well (Quebec). Apparently some places can't just sit and have a few drinks without making it into a drunkfest.
I think that everyone agrees that young kids shouldn't be in a bar, the issue seems to be how do you define "bar"? In general if a place has a licensed kitchen it's not a bar. Where I live if a place has a liquor license but no kitchen then no one under 21 is legally allowed inside. That makes sense to me - although when I was a kid my grandfather used to take me to old guy bars a lot to watch baseball games (afternoon games only). I always had a blast.
It all depends on the bar, but there are too many shades of gray. For example, my former landlord owned a bar. He watched the grandkids for three hours or so between the end of school and the parents getting off of work. At that particular bar at those hours, I never saw more than eight or nine people in there, mostly older working class townsfolk. Now, the kids were always gone by the time the college crowd came in and got rowdy later on. It was extremely tame when they were there. And yes, the kids did play pool and darts. The freakin 10 year old was a shark...
I'm sure some will blanket judge though. I grew up going to bars quite a bit with my dad. some good, some bad. The cigarette smoke was the very worst part about it.
But on the other hand, the cigarette smoke in the truck on the way to the bar and the way home was probably even worse because I couldn't get away at all.....Times have changed for the better in that regard thankfully.
I really don't think a bar is a place for kids. I think in general it says alot about the person if they are regularly bringing a child into a bar and IMO should be frowned upon
WTBS, some bars are different than other bars as far as atmosphere and appropriateness etc. If it's more of an eating establishment or a relaxed type bar where it is casual drinking and not slurring type drunks hanging out I'm fine with that.
The time of day/night is also something to consider.
My wife is from South Dakota and I remember years ago that underage kids could drink in the bar if they were accompanied by their parents. I'm not sure if that is still the case or not but I was shocked when I first discovered that.
Even then, I can really only recall one time seeing it happen. It was simply allowed but it really wasn't an issue that I ever saw.
"Lone Tree Brewing Company is a European-style craft brewery and tasting room: Small and family friendly, with an emphasis on sampling small handcrafted batch brews and sharing the experience with fellow beer lovers."
If you (collective you) don't know of a "bar" where kids are welcome, maybe you need to get out more.
Yes, unfortunately it does happen frequently where he works. Both children and pets (mostly dogs) and since it's under guidelines of an establishment that serves beverages, both are not permitted by law.
The bar tenders have to always politely remind guests to not bring their children or pets. He said it has caused lots of arguments (especially of parents that come in already a little drunk) and he never wants to be confrontational or tell people how to parent, but to just cover his butt because it's the law...
Who says you have to drink "a lot" when you are at a bar? Who says it is not "ok" to drink, in general?
If you (collective you) don't know of a "bar" where kids are welcome, maybe you need to get out more.
I don't WANT to go in a bar where kids are welcome. A bar is a place where adults can have grown up convesations involving sex and other gross stuff
Lots of people drink ALOT at bars and get drunk. You wanna have your kids exposed to drunk people and teach them it is okay to get shytefaced? There might be women throwing themselves on guys, showing cleavage, there might be alot of touching and grabbing or swearing, slurred speech, just general drunk behavior. Even if you are behaving normal, you always have to calculate that in, if you take your kids to a bar.
There is so many other places kids can go to, you really need to bring them into a bar? What for?
If you take them into a bar during the day, they see the usual/daily alcoholics hanging around there - want your child to see that?
And at night - should a child be out and watch others partying? Not really ...
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