Anyone else feel like bars have gone downhill" (father, person, sister)
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I enjoy having a few drinks amongst friends, but I'm starting to really hate the vibe that it seems most bars around here go for. It seems like places are either dead, 99% people 35+, or have a really douchey frathouse atmosphere where you can barely hear yourself think, let alone talk to anyone. What happened? Are there no more cool neighborhood joints were regular guys can come in, drink up and let off some steam? Have they been swallowed up by lame chain sports bars? And if you're into the singles scene, anywhere left where a guy and a girl can meet and actually talk to each other without shouting or grinding on one another all sloppy, but that won't charge you 8-10 bucks a drink?
Bars are not the same. Folks under 40 may think that is the case as they have never been to a real bar.
For example back in the early 1980s Nassau County Long Island had 31 Rock Clubs alone. And the drinking age was 18. Places like Malibu you could catch Billy Idol, My Fathers Place, Springsteen, Speaks the house band used to be Twisted Sister and clubs held like 3k people. Heck their was a club called OBI on the water that had multiple live bands, no cover on Mondays and allowed tailgating in the huge parking lot. Yep it was beachside and they let you show up with RVs and Kegs is you wanted.
Now there is only one left. I recall the second to last one closed a few years ago and owner commented kids today are cheap and boys dont know how to treat girls. He said his last few months he had a handfull of girls in club watching music and drinking while boys sat in parking lot drinking beers and facebooking and texting them to comeout for BJs as boys were too cheap to come inside.
Add in raising drinking age to 21 and tougher DWI and Aids in mid 80s leading up to the new generation who hook up on Match and dating sites bars experienced a huge decline.
Binge drinking also got frowned upon so all you can drink nights, nickle beer nights and $5 buck pitchers all got phased out.
Take wall street as another example 25 years ago every bar in the Seaport and WFC was packed to the max, look at old moves like Wall Street as they go out. Today traders sit in kakis work on a computer and use iphone to chat with friends on line so no need to see them in person.
I am not that old, but I was talking to a girl who was like 27 and she was telling me 95% of her first dates were horrifically bad.
I told her 95% of my first dates went pretty good. She go what what was your secret. I go what secret. I am in a bar or club. I see a girl who looks nice I scope her out, eventually dance with her talk to her and maybe hang out with her for two hours, get her number talk to her on phone during week, then set a date, then call up day of date to confirm then drive to her house to pick her up. If you really liked her you did dinner and a movie a full night. Pretty much a full 3-5 hours. So pretty much you know the girl pretty well.
She said I just meet a guy online, he usually lies about profile, we meet in a coffee shop l have a cup of coffee which is akward as I dont know him, it is bright and we are sober and then unless he thinks we are hooking up he is out of there. Even if we agree on a second date I only know him for a brief glimpse on line and a cup of coffee.
Bars were great in their day. Back in college no cell phones, no internet and parents would not let me use their phone other than a quick call. I had to go get in car and drive and see friends face to face and as men we usually met up in bars.
Bars are not the same. Folks under 40 may think that is the case as they have never been to a real bar.
For example back in the early 1980s Nassau County Long Island had 31 Rock Clubs alone. And the drinking age was 18. Places like Malibu you could catch Billy Idol, My Fathers Place, Springsteen, Speaks the house band used to be Twisted Sister and clubs held like 3k people. Heck their was a club called OBI on the water that had multiple live bands, no cover on Mondays and allowed tailgating in the huge parking lot. Yep it was beachside and they let you show up with RVs and Kegs is you wanted.
Now there is only one left. I recall the second to last one closed a few years ago and owner commented kids today are cheap and boys dont know how to treat girls. He said his last few months he had a handfull of girls in club watching music and drinking while boys sat in parking lot drinking beers and facebooking and texting them to comeout for BJs as boys were too cheap to come inside.
Add in raising drinking age to 21 and tougher DWI and Aids in mid 80s leading up to the new generation who hook up on Match and dating sites bars experienced a huge decline.
Binge drinking also got frowned upon so all you can drink nights, nickle beer nights and $5 buck pitchers all got phased out.
Take wall street as another example 25 years ago every bar in the Seaport and WFC was packed to the max, look at old moves like Wall Street as they go out. Today traders sit in kakis work on a computer and use iphone to chat with friends on line so no need to see them in person.
I am not that old, but I was talking to a girl who was like 27 and she was telling me 95% of her first dates were horrifically bad.
I told her 95% of my first dates went pretty good. She go what what was your secret. I go what secret. I am in a bar or club. I see a girl who looks nice I scope her out, eventually dance with her talk to her and maybe hang out with her for two hours, get her number talk to her on phone during week, then set a date, then call up day of date to confirm then drive to her house to pick her up. If you really liked her you did dinner and a movie a full night. Pretty much a full 3-5 hours. So pretty much you know the girl pretty well.
She said I just meet a guy online, he usually lies about profile, we meet in a coffee shop l have a cup of coffee which is akward as I dont know him, it is bright and we are sober and then unless he thinks we are hooking up he is out of there. Even if we agree on a second date I only know him for a brief glimpse on line and a cup of coffee.
Bars were great in their day. Back in college no cell phones, no internet and parents would not let me use their phone other than a quick call. I had to go get in car and drive and see friends face to face and as men we usually met up in bars.
Wow that sounds fun as hell. The scene today is way lamer. And speaking of rock music, I hate how the bars either play lame dance music or Top 40 Katy Perry type crap.
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