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Old 05-15-2020, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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CDC Update published today

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...iew/index.html



Someone should have told the CDC you aren't allowed to compare anything about Covid 19 to influenza.

This is all very good news! I'm sure some of you will let me know why it's actually the opposite.
It's definitely good news. This isn't, though:

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Hospitalization rates for COVID-19 in adults (18-64 years) are already higher than hospitalization rates for influenza at comparable time points* during the past 5 influenza seasons.
I'd like to see a little more data than a bullet point as well. But still, the hospitalization rate for older adults good news.
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Old 05-15-2020, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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It's definitely good news. This isn't, though:



I'd like to see a little more data than a bullet point as well. But still, the hospitalization rate for older adults good news.
True, I guess the silver lining there is that the older adults are so much more vulnerable than the rest and we can view this panic about children a bit more soberly. 18-64 obviously a huge portion of population (which I assume most of us here fit into), but we are not at major fatality risk. Def would like to see more data.
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Old 05-15-2020, 01:34 PM
 
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My company was told today that anyone who can work from home will be doing so until the end of December.
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Old 05-15-2020, 01:44 PM
 
Location: The ghetto
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CDC Update published today

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...iew/index.html



Someone should have told the CDC you aren't allowed to compare anything about Covid 19 to influenza.

This is all very good news! I'm sure some of you will let me know why it's actually the opposite.

I'll bite. Lockdown and social distancing. Remove that from the equation and the COVID numbers would absolutely dwarf the flu numbers.
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Old 05-15-2020, 01:49 PM
 
Location: The ghetto
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This means nothing, and furthermore, has absolutely no evidence to support it. The "Kawasaki-like" weaseling is meaningless too. This is how these things are. They don't even know what causes any of this normally in the first place, but somehow you know for a fact it's caused by Covid 19?

https://triblive.com/local/pittsburg...o-coronavirus/

“We have cared for kids with Kawasaki disease, and conditions like Kawasaki disease, for literally decades,” said Dr. Terry Dermody, a virologist and the physician-in-chief and scientific director at UPMC’s Children’s Hospital of Pittsburgh. “Despite years and years of searching for a cause, we’ve not come up with any certain link to Kawasaki disease, any infectious trigger. We all suspect that there is one, but we haven’t been able to identify it.”

“We’re really still in our infancy of understanding this infection,” said Springer. “And our testing is still unsure, so we don’t have testing capacity that’s really well validated. Are those positives true positives, and are those negatives true negatives? We don’t exactly know the answer yet.”

It’s possible that covid-19 is not a cause for the syndrome, just a “tripwire,” Dermody said. It could easily be caused by any other severe virus the child is exposed to.

It's similar but different. Do some research. The kids in NY don't have fevers.
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Old 05-15-2020, 02:01 PM
 
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I'll bite. Lockdown and social distancing. Remove that from the equation and the COVID numbers would absolutely dwarf the flu numbers.
Yep
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Old 05-15-2020, 02:23 PM
 
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I'll bite. Lockdown and social distancing. Remove that from the equation and the COVID numbers would absolutely dwarf the flu numbers.
Absolutely. Also, the hospitalization rate for working age adults is higher than during flu season, according to the CDC - despite the lockdown!
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Old 05-15-2020, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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I'll bite. Lockdown and social distancing. Remove that from the equation and the COVID numbers would absolutely dwarf the flu numbers.
Weird that it would be going down as many states open up to a large degree though (i.e. ending the lockdown and Social Distancing). Seems like the opposite of your theory.
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Old 05-15-2020, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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Absolutely. Also, the hospitalization rate for working age adults is higher than during flu season, according to the CDC - despite the lockdown!
This would suggest it doesn't work then...

Heads I win tails you lose!
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Old 05-15-2020, 02:28 PM
 
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Weird that it would be going down as many states open up to a large degree though (i.e. ending the lockdown and Social Distancing). Seems like the opposite of your theory.
Or there's just latency in infection.
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