Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Massachusetts
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 04-25-2020, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Camberville
15,861 posts, read 21,441,250 times
Reputation: 28204

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by redplum33 View Post
What's really the point? As far as I know, there's no guarantee that you're immune. And even if you are immune, nobody knows for how long.

While both of these points are true, the antibodies in others' plasma has been effective in helping very sick patients. It seems likely that even if you are *not* immune, your system is likely to be able to better fight back infection for as long as you have antibodies for most people.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-25-2020, 05:28 PM
 
18,725 posts, read 33,390,141 times
Reputation: 37301
Quote:
Originally Posted by charolastra00 View Post
While both of these points are true, the antibodies in others' plasma has been effective in helping very sick patients. It seems likely that even if you are *not* immune, your system is likely to be able to better fight back infection for as long as you have antibodies for most people.
Also, widespread antibody testing gives some understanding to the data of the spread and prevalence of the virus. It's not all about one of us, after all. I personally wouldn't change anything I do based on the result, no matter what it is. Still not gonna go to a crowded bar or restaurant or into a store without a mask.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-25-2020, 05:28 PM
 
7,240 posts, read 4,548,286 times
Reputation: 11926
Quote:
Originally Posted by charolastra00 View Post
While both of these points are true, the antibodies in others' plasma has been effective in helping very sick patients. It seems likely that even if you are *not* immune, your system is likely to be able to better fight back infection for as long as you have antibodies for most people.
They already have a portal for you to contribute.

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-prepar...ovid-19-plasma
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-25-2020, 05:52 PM
 
Location: The ghetto
17,738 posts, read 9,187,561 times
Reputation: 13327
Quote:
Originally Posted by charolastra00 View Post
While both of these points are true, the antibodies in others' plasma has been effective in helping very sick patients. It seems likely that even if you are *not* immune, your system is likely to be able to better fight back infection for as long as you have antibodies for most people.
Quote:
Originally Posted by brightdoglover View Post
Also, widespread antibody testing gives some understanding to the data of the spread and prevalence of the virus. It's not all about one of us, after all. I personally wouldn't change anything I do based on the result, no matter what it is. Still not gonna go to a crowded bar or restaurant or into a store without a mask.

Call me crazy, but I have concerns about getting the virus from the healthcare worker when getting any kind of test done.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-25-2020, 06:12 PM
 
18,725 posts, read 33,390,141 times
Reputation: 37301
Quote:
Originally Posted by redplum33 View Post
Call me crazy, but I have concerns about getting the virus from the healthcare worker when getting any kind of test done.
A fair consideration. That's why the testers are full of appropriate PPE and why we should all be wearing masks. It's the person-to-person breath/talking droplets that are the most infective. This isn't blood borne, it's respiratory and that's bad too. Note that they also wear gloves and all.

One reason there hasn't been widespread testing, besides the lack of testing supplies, is that some smaller areas lacked sufficient PPE to do the testing.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-25-2020, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Dripping Springs, Texas
162 posts, read 102,092 times
Reputation: 416
Quote:
Originally Posted by redplum33 View Post
What's really the point? As far as I know, there's no guarantee that you're immune. And even if you are immune, nobody knows for how long.
This is an article from the UK Guardian about that.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...nity-passports
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-25-2020, 08:02 PM
 
1,899 posts, read 1,403,596 times
Reputation: 2303
The WHO is already backpedaling from the quotes in that article and deleted their tweets from earlier today.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-26-2020, 06:07 AM
 
7,240 posts, read 4,548,286 times
Reputation: 11926
Quote:
Originally Posted by charolastra00 View Post
While both of these points are true, the antibodies in others' plasma has been effective in helping very sick patients. It seems likely that even if you are *not* immune, your system is likely to be able to better fight back infection for as long as you have antibodies for most people.
Agree with this. I don't understand why the known laws of viruses have stopped for this one. The argument for the flu shot is that it will give you some immunity even if the strain is wrong.

But here.. oh no... this *may* do nothing.

IF it didn't give you "some immunity" wouldn't we see ever spiking numbers? Yet the numbers are flat. Seems to me that is evidence that some immunity is given.

In any event, I am getting tested because I keep having strange symptoms that my doctors keep smugly saying is a virus. But won't test me for.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-26-2020, 08:28 AM
 
Location: The ghetto
17,738 posts, read 9,187,561 times
Reputation: 13327
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arya Stark View Post
I am one of the smartest people alive.
Indeed.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-26-2020, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Camberville
15,861 posts, read 21,441,250 times
Reputation: 28204
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arya Stark View Post
Agree with this. I don't understand why the known laws of viruses have stopped for this one. The argument for the flu shot is that it will give you some immunity even if the strain is wrong.

But here.. oh no... this *may* do nothing.

IF it didn't give you "some immunity" wouldn't we see ever spiking numbers? Yet the numbers are flat. Seems to me that is evidence that some immunity is given.

In any event, I am getting tested because I keep having strange symptoms that my doctors keep smugly saying is a virus. But won't test me for.

We're seeing flattening numbers because of the shelter in place. Nothing to do with immunity.



WHO was speaking in strict science-speak which doesn't translate well to the masses. By saying there's "no evidence" that antibodies prove immunity, they mean just that - they haven't yet completed testing that proves immunity. People have only been recovered for a few months at this point. They aren't saying it goes one way or the other, just that we lack evidence. They later went on to say that in all likelihood, exposure/antibodies does provide protection.



South Korea has done some research into this as well that is much more encouraging about the impact of antibodies. This article also notes that previous concerns about reinfection/relapsing may have been tied to dead or weak amounts of coronavirus still in the system. The new research suggests that if a patient is re-diagnosed with COVID-19 after recovering, it's unlikely he or she will be able to infect other: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/south-...ry?id=70312111
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply

Quick Reply
Message:


Settings
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2020 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Massachusetts

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top