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Old 11-01-2008, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Plus, why wouldn't you want all citizens to have the same rights as a heterosexual couple have?

If you're not gay...then you already have the rights. If you don't agree with gay life style, you don't have to be their friends. Still, how can you want to deny an individual the same rights concerning couple insurance, medical rights, death benefits/wills etc.
They already have the same rights.
Proposition 8 has nothing to do with rights. All the rights that California associates with marriage have already been guaranteed to homosexual couples through "domestic partnership" laws- laws that would be totally unaffected by Prop. 8.
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Old 11-01-2008, 07:10 PM
 
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What "unequal" treatment? Any man can marry any women as long as the fit the requirements (age, for one thing).
A homosexual man can marry a women, just like heterosexuals can, so it is equal treatment.
EXACTLY!!! This was the logic used to refute the lower court ruling in Loving v. Virginia that set precedent to overturn restrictions on gay marriage. I said look it up.

Aside from the gay marriage debate and for my earlier post: The question was to deliver ONE GOOD REASON to vote for Obama. If I was gay, and McCain did not support gay marriage, wouldn't that be a good reason to vote Obama????

Moreover, if I was a woman, and supported Roe v. Wade and McCain does not support that case, then wouldn't it be a good reason not to vote for McCain???
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Old 11-01-2008, 07:22 PM
 
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What "unequal" treatment? Any man can marry any women as long as they fit the requirements (age, for one thing).
A homosexual man can marry a women, just like heterosexuals can, so it is equal treatment.
And that's the unequal treatment.

He can only marry any woman and not any man.

He may have the same rights as any man, but he does not have the rights as every person, and no amount of sophistry is going to change that.

We do not talk about "The rights of man" and mean only the one gender.
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Old 11-01-2008, 07:23 PM
 
Location: North Side of Indy, IN
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What "unequal" treatment? Any man can marry any women as long as they fit the requirements (age, for one thing).
A homosexual man can marry a women, just like heterosexuals can, so it is equal treatment.
and the Most Idiotic Post of the Evening Award goes to...
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Old 11-01-2008, 07:24 PM
 
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I think he got confused when I told him he was right.
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Old 11-01-2008, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Murfreesboro, TN
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and the Most Idiotic Post of the Evening Award goes to...
Politico - I may have strongly agreed with you in the past, but I applaud you for presenting the award for that comment.
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Old 11-01-2008, 07:28 PM
 
Location: North Side of Indy, IN
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Politico - I may have strongly agreed with you in the past, but I applaud you for presenting the award for that comment.
Ah well, thanks, Steve. Just calling 'em, as I see 'em.

But, I do believe you meant to say "disagreed" in your post, as we both know that we rarely agree.
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Old 11-01-2008, 07:29 PM
 
Location: The Land of Lincoln
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Because he's not McCain.

btw, I'm voting independent this year because I cannot stand either of them, but if I had to choose between the two of them, it would come down to the "lesser of two evils".

Worst reason, ever.
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Old 11-01-2008, 07:30 PM
 
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Sigh! If you only read my other posts on this thread.
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Old 11-01-2008, 07:30 PM
 
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I agree with hoarfrost and arthur, but... how much do you earn yearly?
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