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Old 02-22-2016, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Right now according to available polls, these are states that favour Bernie Sanders or very close for grab:

Solid for Sanders: Vermont, West Virginia
Likely for Sanders: Alaska, Maine, Utah
Leaning for Sanders: Colorado, Massachusetts
Toss-ups: Missouri, Oklahoma, Oregon, Wisconsin
Leaning for Clinton: Minnesota, Ohio
It would be a whole lot more accurate to also include

Solid for Clinton: South Carolina, Texas, Georgia, Virginia, Tennessee, Alabama, Arkansas, Michigan, Louisiana, Kansas, Florida, North Carolina

And that's before I even get into whether your characterizations are accurate.

 
Old 02-22-2016, 09:10 PM
 
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It would be a whole lot more accurate to also include

Solid for Clinton: South Carolina, Texas, Georgia, Virginia, Tennessee, Alabama, Arkansas, Michigan, Louisiana, Kansas, Florida, North Carolina

And that's before I even get into whether your characterizations are accurate.
And Illinois. She holds a 58-24 lead over Sanders here.
 
Old 02-22-2016, 09:25 PM
 
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And Illinois. She holds a 58-24 lead over Sanders here.
Thats absurd. Illinois is a middle of the road state and she is now only 5-7 points ahead among the average of national polls. Clearly an outlier or old poll.
 
Old 02-22-2016, 09:31 PM
 
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Thats absurd. Illinois is a middle of the road state and she is now only 5-7 points ahead among the average of national polls. Clearly an outlier or old poll.
OH I don't know. Illinois is populated with the brain surgeons who inflicted unqualified extremists like Obama, Dick Durnin, and Carol Mosely-Braun on the country. Hillary seems like a natural fit for Illinois, plus she aligns with Illinois' long history of electing corrupt politicians.

Illinois voters may be the worst in the nation.
 
Old 02-22-2016, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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I was trying to go with states that had somewhat current polling on RCP. I either missed Illinois or it might not have been updated when I looked, but this came out just today, Clinton 51 Sanders 32.

http://paulsimoninstitute.siu.edu/_c...al-primary.pdf

Not sure what else is out there giving a 5-7 point spread, RCP only had one other poll, going back to last summer, which of course I ignored.

And just in case it wasn't clear, when I listed these states as solidly for Hillary, I was using the same criteria as the person I was responding to used - current polling data. Obviously all of this is subject to change.
 
Old 02-22-2016, 09:48 PM
 
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I was trying to go with states that had somewhat current polling on RCP. I either missed Illinois or it might not have been updated when I looked, but this came out just today, Clinton 51 Sanders 32.

http://paulsimoninstitute.siu.edu/_c...al-primary.pdf

Not sure what else is out there giving a 5-7 point spread, RCP only had one other poll, going back to last summer, which of course I ignored.

And just in case it wasn't clear, when I listed these states as solidly for Hillary, I was using the same criteria as the person I was responding to used - current polling data. Obviously all of this is subject to change.
And this one
Poll: Clinton Lead in Illinois Over Sanders Slips
 
Old 02-22-2016, 09:54 PM
 
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So she's 40 points ahead in Illinois according to a random pollster and 5-7 points ahead nationally according to the RCP average of national polls. I guess Sanders must be 90-10 ahead in west coast states for this to add up.
 
Old 02-23-2016, 04:40 AM
 
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So she's 40 points ahead in Illinois according to a random pollster and 5-7 points ahead nationally according to the RCP average of national polls. I guess Sanders must be 90-10 ahead in west coast states for this to add up.
No she is also up 19 in another poll.
 
Old 02-23-2016, 04:42 AM
 
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It would be a whole lot more accurate to also include

Solid for Clinton: South Carolina, Texas, Georgia, Virginia, Tennessee, Alabama, Arkansas, Michigan, Louisiana, Kansas, Florida, North Carolina

And that's before I even get into whether your characterizations are accurate.
Two new polls just come out this morning
Texas +10
Ohio +15
So they should both be LIKELY for Clinton now.
 
Old 02-23-2016, 05:01 AM
 
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This is an overall snapshot of the race right now based on the available polls. I will keep updating each time new polls come in, so things will change as new polls come in.

Solid for Sanders: Vermont, West Virginia

Likely for Sanders: Alaska, Maine, Utah

Leaning for Sanders: Colorado, Massachusetts

Toss-ups: Oklahoma, Wisconsin

Leaning for Clinton: Minnesota, Missouri, Oregon

Likely for Clinton: California, Connecticut, Idaho, Maryland, Michigan, North Carolina, Ohio, Texas, Virginia

Solid for Clinton: Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Louisiana, Mississippi, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee

Not enough data for the remaining 13 states and D.C.

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