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Old 02-20-2016, 07:57 AM
 
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We're so worried about super delegates, but they only make up 15% of the vote.
The difference between Obama & Hillary in delegates awarded from the primaries in 2008 was 3.9%.

You can bet they are worried about that 15%.

 
Old 02-20-2016, 08:32 AM
 
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you need to get your facts straight. It's not rigged at all as it was designed like that. Sanders himself is a super delegate and he chose to join the race.

Besides, Hillary Clinton received 17.9 million votes in the 2008 primaries and didn't get nominated.
Why are Bernie sanders' fans already whining about the system when he only has 150k at the moment?
Geez
It's not Bernie's fans. It's republicans trying to make a political point about the democrats while they engage in wishful thinking. They understand the only way they might win the White House is if the Democrats nominate Sanders.
 
Old 02-20-2016, 08:54 AM
 
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you need to get your facts straight. It's not rigged at all as it was designed like that. Sanders himself is a super delegate and he chose to join the race.

Besides, Hillary Clinton received 17.9 million votes in the 2008 primaries and didn't get nominated.
Why are Bernie sanders' fans already whining about the system when he only has 150k at the moment?
Geez
Voters can only vote for those presented as options, and those options are largely dependent on a lot of money, and since the status quo controls that money, the options for the most part maintain the status quo.

Exceptions like Perot and Trump, Nader and Sanders, come along every so often and shake up the establishment, people that have enough money of their own to essentially "buy" their way onto our menu of choices and/or people who somehow manage their way via the "grass roots" campaign.

You judge which is the more worthy...

Either way, when was the last time any true outsider of any sort really managed to upset the status quo?
 
Old 02-20-2016, 09:22 AM
 
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Super delegates can and have changed their votes in the past. So no, it's not rigged. Bernie will likely win a good chunk of them over to his side as he gains momentum.

The potential of super delegates tipping the scales in a tight race is there, but so far it has never happened.

That said, the super delegates are part of the party establishment and many of them have long relationships with Hillary. She has raised money for a lot of them, etc. Bernie was an independent for a long time and was not known for doing a lot of party work like fundraising and endorsements for other's campaigns. That's why she started out with so many on her side and he didn't. But popularity and votes are like gold in politics, so he can win them over if he gets popular enough.
 
Old 02-20-2016, 03:24 PM
 
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Hilly WINS NV according to NBC News...


Only a matter of time now till the Sanders SHAM is OVER...
 
Old 02-20-2016, 03:32 PM
 
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Wow the people of this country. All enamoured with some corrupt evil witch under investigation who thinks she's above the law. What the hell is wrong with people. Seriously
 
Old 02-20-2016, 03:33 PM
 
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Hilly WINS NV according to NBC News...

Only a matter of time now till the Sanders SHAM is OVER...
As predicted, she won. But of course, leave it to the deranged Sanders supporters to claim that she "stole" this election.
It's so glaring and obvious that the media is trying to give the illusion that there's an actual race for Democratic nomination, when in actuality Hillary's going to win the nomination. The tide is in her favor. Only the delusional Sanders supporters think he stands a chance.

Hillary's going to win South Carolina also. If it were Sanders who won both Nevada and South Carolina, the media would be claiming that the race is over and that "Sanders will be the nominee" when there's still Super Tuesday left (which by the way is also in Hillary's favor). But of course, the media's gonna try to make it seem like it's still neck-and-neck. The bias is OBVIOUS.
 
Old 02-20-2016, 04:05 PM
 
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As predicted, she won. But of course, leave it to the deranged Sanders supporters to claim that she "stole" this election.
It's so glaring and obvious that the media is trying to give the illusion that there's an actual race for Democratic nomination, when in actuality Hillary's going to win the nomination. The tide is in her favor. Only the delusional Sanders supporters think he stands a chance.

Hillary's going to win South Carolina also. If it were Sanders who won both Nevada and South Carolina, the media would be claiming that the race is over and that "Sanders will be the nominee" when there's still Super Tuesday left (which by the way is also in Hillary's favor). But of course, the media's gonna try to make it seem like it's still neck-and-neck. The bias is OBVIOUS.
I don't think it's bias in the political sense. I think it's bias toward framing any story in the most attention grabbing way possible. To me this is a byproduct of both the advent of the shift towards "news as a profit center" and the 24 hour news cycle.

Media outlets are no longer rewarded for the integrity and prestige of their news divisions. They are rewarded for attention through ratings. Sensationalism and outrage bring both.
 
Old 02-20-2016, 05:28 PM
 
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Wow the people of this country. All enamoured with some corrupt evil witch under investigation who thinks she's above the law. What the hell is wrong with people. Seriously
Lol yeah, agree. You could see right through her fakeness.
 
Old 02-20-2016, 05:45 PM
 
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I don't think it's bias in the political sense. I think it's bias toward framing any story in the most attention grabbing way possible. To me this is a byproduct of both the advent of the shift towards "news as a profit center" and the 24 hour news cycle.

Media outlets are no longer rewarded for the integrity and prestige of their news divisions. They are rewarded for attention through ratings. Sensationalism and outrage bring both.
Well, I agree with the majority of that - it IS in their benefit to have a 'close race'. I will say the majority of the major networks have done nothing but criticize Hillary 24/7.
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