Coronavirus in DFW - News & Discussion (Howe, Italy: transit, nurses)

[PACman2521]

Originally Posted by DPatel304

Is there any data to show how many young people have died or been severely affected? That's what I'm wondering.

Not local data, but NYC has their numbers. Between 18-44 yos it's approx 10% hospitalized (likely lower considering available case numbers vs unknown infected numbers) and a 0.83% death rate.

Numbers available here...
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data.page

[yjc281]

Originally Posted by DPatel304

Is there any data to show how many young people have died or been severely affected? That's what I'm wondering.

Here's data from Dallas County, below is from 4/17:
Source:

https://www.dallascounty.org/departm...oronavirus.php

Quote:
"Of 543 cases requiring hospitalization, most have been either over 60 years of age or have had at least one
known high‐risk chronic health condition. Diabetes has been an underlying high‐risk health condition reported
in about a third of all hospitalized patients with COVID‐19."

If you want a larger sample check NYC

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data.page

[DPatel304]

Thank you both for the links!

10% hospitalization rate is high, but, as you said, we don't know the true number of infected, so it's hard to really know how serious this is for that particular age group.

[TurtleCreek80]

Originally Posted by DPatel304

Is there any data to show how many young people have died or been severely affected? That's what I'm wondering.

https://www.dallascounty.org/Assets/...ary_041720.pdf

Dallas County data through 4/17/2020:

15% of hospitalizations are under 40. 4% of deaths.

Ages 41-64 are lumped together which is a REALLY wide age span that accounts for 46% of hospitalizations and 20% of deaths.

[PACman2521]

Originally Posted by DPatel304

Thank you both for the links!

10% hospitalization rate is high, but, as you said, we don't know the true number of infected, so it's hard to really know how serious this is for that particular age group.

Estimates vary widely.

https://twitter.com/naval/status/1252185901087592448

[PACman2521]

Originally Posted by TurtleCreek80

https://www.dallascounty.org/Assets/...ary_041720.pdf

Dallas County data through 4/17/2020:

15% of hospitalizations are under 40. 4% of deaths.

Ages 41-64 are lumped together which is a REALLY wide age span that accounts for 46% of hospitalizations and 20% of deaths.

These are percentage of all cases. A more useful number would be how many of those that are affected, are hospitalized or pass, within that age range.

[roodd279]

4Moving - and anyone else that cares - the MASK IS NOT ABOUT YOU. Sorry to shout. It's not getting through. Totally agree people don't wear it right, they touch their face more, all that. Which would matter - IF - they were trying to prevent themselves from getting sick. But they're not. They're trying to stop YOU from getting sick.


The main point of wearing the mask is: When I sneeze, it won't fly 40 feet. That's it. I'm simplifying, dramatizing and paraphrasing, obviously, but that is pretty much the main way it transmits, and pretty much why you should wear a mask.



Next point: Assume you have it. Plenty of people do not show symptoms until later, if at all. Plenty. So the right play is to assume you have it. NOW you need a mask - because you can assume I do NOT have it, and (no assumption required) I do not want it.



People like the OP trying to find a place where you don't need it - that crazy look you're getting is going to be coming long after this virus runs its course. You're not stating your personal bravado but instead demonstrating your hatred of your fellow human being. A much worse thing to do, long lasting effects.

[4Movingeast]

roodd279 I totally get it. What I don't want is for anyone to have a false sense of security about it. I don't think it's a terrible idea to wear masks, but I wish people were doing a better job of it. The masks that people are wearing now are more about protecting the world from the wearer and not vice versa. I hope that makes sense. Be well!

[DPatel304]

Originally Posted by PACman2521

Estimates vary widely.

https://twitter.com/naval/status/1252185901087592448

Yeah, that's the problem. Also, aside from their age, we don't know much about these individuals. We know how many young people died and were hospitalized, but we don't know if htey had any prior health conditions, if they were overweight, or there was some other factor.

[Wittgenstein's Ghost]

Originally Posted by DPatel304

Yeah, that's the problem. Also, aside from their age, we don't know much about these individuals. We know how many young people died and were hospitalized, but we don't know if htey had any prior health conditions, if they were overweight, or there was some other factor.

But that's the thing: There are enough people who are in an age group with a significant hospitalization rate or have some sort of underlying health condition that the "young people return to normal, old people stay home" approach won't work. First, a lot of young people do go to the hospital. Second, who is taking care of those old people? Young people.

I'm not saying that young, healthy people can't return to the work force sooner than old people. But the idea that it isn't a big deal for young people to become a vector just because they have a low risk of dying isn't true.