Coronavirus in DFW - News & Discussion (Dallas, Howe: parking, shelter)

[move4ward]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

The fact that we have a leader who thought it would be ok to inject people with bleach or that Lysol had to tell Americans not to drink their products shows us how dumb we really are.

He was only joking.

Trump: My Idea to Inject Disinfectant Was a Prank on Reporters ‘Just to See What Would Happen’
https://nymag.com./intelligencer/202...reporters.html

Today he explained to reporters that he had just been joking. “I was asking a question sarcastically to reporters like you,” he said, “just to see what would happen.”

[move4ward]

Police issued a citation to Salon a la Mode, after it was opened at 9 am today.

Dallas salon owner issued citation after reopening against stay-at-home orders
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/he...1-8a4c380f19bc

A Dallas hair salon owner was issued a citation after reopening her business, violating local and state executive orders to stay at home.

Salon a la Mode in Dallas opened at 9 a.m. Friday. Before doors opened she had a crowd of people outside to support owner Shelly Luther.

Some supporters carried guns and stayed outside while Luther welcomed customers into the salon.

[DPatel304]

Originally Posted by CDContribuitor

They have not explained explicitly as to what is the significance of that date.

However, the way I interpret it is, the model can say with certainty that there would be no new infections or deaths post that date for the current wave, if we are able to contain this virus through social distancing measures, and other guidelines. Earlier they had an assumption on the tracking page, saying that the current social distancing measures should be until 5/31. Now they just mention the following - "Current social distancing assumed until infections minimized and containment implemented".

Okay, thanks! So it's really just a tenative date and it depends on how well we handle things going forward (similar to how the 'peak' was also a tenative date)?

[CDContribuitor]

That explains the low numbers in Africa, Middle East, South Asia and tropical countries. Some of the countries within these areas where there has been clusters, it could have been initiated by infected person(s) traveling into the country and spreading it. However, it seems to have been contained effectively quickly, precisely due to the higher temperatures, case in point - Singapore and India. That would also explain relatively better containment of the virus in Texas, California and Florida.

Parts of the world such as Northern Italy (Milan in Lombardy region is a travel hub) and New York had to bear the brunt of the virus because of multiple factors like density, lower temperatures and heavy influx of travelers (Business and Tourism).

Going forward, we need to continue with our social distancing and also have sound contract tracing measures in place. However I do think that we could re-open as quickly as May 1 in a phased manner. Geographically speaking, majority of the country can restart while we still have hot-spots such as NYC under lockdown until May 15.

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

This is what I’ve been saying all along. Of course it won’t completely stop spread, but it should help slow it.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national...us?context=amp

[As Above So Below...]

Originally Posted by move4ward

He was only joking.

Trump: My Idea to Inject Disinfectant Was a Prank on Reporters ‘Just to See What Would Happen’
https://nymag.com./intelligencer/202...reporters.html

No he wasn’t. That’s just him trying to get out of it. He really was being that stupid.

[move4ward]

Originally Posted by CDContribuitor

That explains the low numbers in Africa, Middle East, South Asia and tropical countries. Some of the countries within these areas where there has been clusters, it could have been initiated by infected person(s) traveling into the country and spreading it. However, it seems to have been contained effectively quickly, precisely due to the higher temperatures, case in point - Singapore and India. That would also explain relatively better containment of the virus in Texas, California and Florida.

Parts of the world such as Northern Italy (Milan in Lombardy region is a travel hub) and New York had to bear the brunt of the virus because of multiple factors like density, lower temperatures and heavy influx of travelers (Business and Tourism).

Going forward, we need to continue with our social distancing and also have sound contract tracing measures in place. However I do think that we could re-open as quickly as May 1 in a phased manner. Geographically speaking, majority of the country can restart while we still have hot-spots such as NYC under lockdown until May 15.

Lack of testing can make the numbers look good in poor countries. The government can't compete with the USA and European countries for testing supplies.

Ecuador reports only 576 deaths (33 deaths per 1 million population). They have 7,600 more deaths between March 1 to April 15 than the average. Death certificates are listed as sudden lung failure.

Corpses are laying in homes for 6 days in 90+degree heat with no air conditioning. The funeral homes are unable to keep up with the deaths.

Ecuador’s Death Toll During Outbreak Is Among the Worst in the World
https://www.nytimes.com./2020/04/23/...ronavirus.html

The spike in deaths caused chaos and anger outside hospitals and morgues, as grieving families struggled to recover the bodies of family members or to collect their death certificates. In the city’s poorer neighborhoods, some residents said they had to wait for up to six days in the 90-degree heat for emergency services to collect the bodies of deceased relatives and neighbors.

[CDContribuitor]

One key aspect about the data that I would like to highlight - the number of deaths per day for many of the hot-spots like NY, Italy and Spain seem to be fluctuating up and down. We see a big fluctuation between the weekend and the Monday/Tuesday numbers. It may be happening because the reporting of deaths is not happening real-time. Also, it may not be happening consistently and in a standardized manner. This may be resulting in some of the numbers being reported the next day instead of the day that the death happened. Since it is aggregated to present the overall numbers for the state/country, the inconsistency in the actual times of reporting is leading to those fluctuations that we are seeing. So even though there may be a real trend if the data would have been reported accurately and in real-time, we are not able to visualize the trend on the data presented because of the inconsistencies in how the data is being reported across hospitals, regions.

[Wittgenstein's Ghost]

The US added almost 39,000 cases and just under 2,000 deaths today, making this our worst day yet for new daily cases. That's a terrible thing. Our previous high was 34k, yet we added almost 39k today. That is insane. Our curve is not lowering, and I have no idea how people think significant parts of the country are ready to be opened soon. We're adding new cases as fast as we ever have, and we're seeing 2,000 deaths pretty much every day.

Most guidelines from the experts (and I believe the White House has supported this metric) say a place should see continuously declining new cases for two weeks. Very few areas with significant population are close to that.

Originally Posted by move4ward

He was only joking.

Trump: My Idea to Inject Disinfectant Was a Prank on Reporters ‘Just to See What Would Happen’
https://nymag.com./intelligencer/202...reporters.html

Haha. No he wasn't. Anyone watching the video knows he wasn't. He was clearly being serious, and his questions were directed at his medical team. I get being a homer for your guy, but come on.

Originally Posted by DPatel304

Okay, thanks! So it's really just a tenative date and it depends on how well we handle things going forward (similar to how the 'peak' was also a tenative date)?

That's just the end of the model, nothing more. There is no certainly that this round will be over by then. Certainty doesn't exist with models.

Originally Posted by CDContribuitor

That explains the low numbers in Africa, Middle East, South Asia....

Going forward, we need to continue with our social distancing and also have sound contract tracing measures in place. However I do think that we could re-open as quickly as May 1 in a phased manner. Geographically speaking, majority of the country can restart while we still have hot-spots such as NYC under lockdown until May 15.

1. As another poster mentioned, poor countries aren't testing much. Africa hasn't tested much at all (I know Africa is not a country, btw).

I really hope the warm weather thing turns out to be significant, but I think a lot of people are blowing it out of proportion.

2. I have no idea how you arrived at May 1 for most of the country. Today was our biggest new cases day yet, with almost 39,000 new cases (previous high was 34k). How are we supposed to open in a week when today was the worst day so far? Most areas of the country that have any significant population base are nowhere close to having two weeks of consistently declining new case numbers.

[elan]

Originally Posted by move4ward

Police issued a citation to Salon a la Mode, after it was opened at 9 am today.

Dallas salon owner issued citation after reopening against stay-at-home orders
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/he...1-8a4c380f19bc

I feel sorry for her, but not a smart move on her part. At this point, she only has a two week wait. Now, she has to pay a fine.

[calgirlinnc]

Originally Posted by elan

I feel sorry for her, but not a smart move on her part. At this point, she only has a two week wait. Now, she has to pay a fine.

Expect to see more of this.

People have to eat and they have to pay their bills.