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I'm just angry that I spent over an hour typing you up a page worth of information, then being told that I wrote over 250,000 more characters than I'm allowed.
That's probably a good thing--no one is going to read a post that long. That's verging on novel territory.
Honestly? They probably don't think about Cleveland at all. And not because it's Cleveland but because other than wherever they live or have lived, or "big name" cities, most people don't spend a whole lot of time thinking about other, mid-sized cities one way or another. If they have to travel there (any random city) for some reason, then they might think about it, but other than that - probably not. It's not an insult, it just is.
What do you think about....Topeka? Austin? Boise? Long Beach? Fresno....and so on.
Cleveland is a lot bigger than Topeka and Boise and Fresno. In Cleveland, there are over 2 million people and counting. These other cities have maybe a little bit over 500,000. Take Jackson, Mississippi for example. It's one of those towns that eventually grew into a larger city. I consider Jackson a "Large Suburb". Cleveland on the other hand was built to be a big city. If it has a large downtown and a lot of suburbs, it's a big city. Cleveland has this quality.
Plus, what's more popular? Cleveland, Columbus or Toledo? When you go to the airport and check the flight schedule, it just says Cleveland. But for Toledo and Columbus, it says Columbus, Ohio and Toledo, Ohio.
If it needs the state it's in in the name, then it's not that big of a city.
It wasn't confusingly long. It was just 2 average sized paragraphs, followed by a short description of about 15 suburbs.
You're just going to have to accept that you posted this thread on the general part of City-Data. This isn't the Cleveland forum. No one cares about descriptions of 15 suburbs of a city they don't live in, and I mean that in the nicest possible way.
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If it needs the state it's in in the name, then it's not that big of a city.
Or it shares the name of another city (Toledo, Spain or Columbus, Georgia.)
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Cleveland is a lot bigger than Topeka and Boise and Fresno. In Cleveland, there are over 2 million people and counting. These other cities have maybe a little bit over 500,000. Take Jackson, Mississippi for example. It's one of those towns that eventually grew into a larger city. I consider Jackson a "Large Suburb". Cleveland on the other hand was built to be a big city. If it has a large downtown and a lot of suburbs, it's a big city. Cleveland has this quality.
Plus, what's more popular? Cleveland, Columbus or Toledo? When you go to the airport and check the flight schedule, it just says Cleveland. But for Toledo and Columbus, it says Columbus, Ohio and Toledo, Ohio.
If it needs the state it's in in the name, then it's not that big of a city.
Cleveland proper is under 500k in population. And frankly, it doesn't matter. Its a mid sized cit that people who have no reason to think about....don't. I don't know why you're taking it personally. Do you feel strongly about Omaha?
If you don't know the state names that go along with Topeka, Boise, Austin, Long Beach or Fresno then I wouldn't be bragging.
I'm just angry that I spent over an hour typing you up a page worth of information, then being told that I wrote over 250,000 more characters than I'm allowed.
To be honest, it was probably way more than most people would read anyway. That's likely why the character limit is in place.
You're just going to have to accept that you posted this thread on the general part of City-Data. This isn't the Cleveland forum. No one cares about descriptions of 15 suburbs of a city they don't live in, and I mean that in the nicest possible way.
Or it shares the name of another city (Toledo, Spain or Columbus, Georgia.)
Well there's a Cleveland, Tennessee, but Cleveland, Ohio still just called Cleveland. There's a Las Vegas, New Mexico, but Las Vegas, Nevada is still just called Las Vegas. It's all about how popular a city is and how large it is.
Cleveland proper is under 500k in population. And frankly, it doesn't matter. Its a mid sized cit that people who have no reason to think about....don't. I don't know why you're taking it personally. Do you feel strongly about Omaha?
If you don't know the state names that go along with Topeka, Boise, Austin, Long Beach or Fresno then I wouldn't be bragging.
The Cleveland proper is irrelevant. The city of Cleveland has a little bit under 400,000. But the Cleveland Metropolitan area (That's how populations are usually counted) is over 2 million. The CSA of Cleveland is over 3.5 million. Cleveland is definitely a large city.
The Cleveland proper is irrelevant. The city of Cleveland has a little bit under 400,000. But the Cleveland Metropolitan area (That's how populations are usually counted) is over 2 million. The CSA of Cleveland is over 3.5 million. Cleveland is definitely a large city.
Look, the size of the population, no matter how you slice it, is irrelevant. I get having pride in your hometown, but you're never going to get people on this forum to care as much as you apparently do.
You asked what people outside Cleveland think of the city? Regardless of the numbers, it is largely viewed as a medium sized city. It is not viewed as a large city, no matter how badly you want it to be.
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