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Remember, you're arguing with people who think Cleveland is the "next Hollywood" because "A Christmas Story" was filmed there 30 years ago and then that Drew Carey thing ...
I don't care much for Cleveland. I am unable to find many redeeming qualities about the city, or anything that really shows it's turned itself around. I do take issue with people who don't respect the actual size of a city. Suggesting Fresno is larger than Cleveland is beyond stupid.
That's like saying Oklahoma City is bigger than Atlanta.
In the 2012 presidential election, Obama won only a few slivers of Ohio, and part of that was the northern part of the state, around Akron and Cleveland. The Republicans obviously want to win back this area, since Ohio is always such a key battle ground state, and with its high population offers a lot of electoral votes.
What do I think of when I hear Cleveland? A has been city that is beginning to regain some footing.
At its worst? A mini Detroit.
At its best? A Pittsburgh copy cat.
The demographics have not been kind to Cleveland, steadily shedding population for over 50 years with no end in sight. High poverty rate, high crime rate, even the MSA is stagnant or shrinking by some estimates. It's one thing for the city to shrink, it's an entirely something else if the MSA begins to shrink.
I've never been to Cleveland, but what I generally hear about it isn't the best. I know they have a few highly renowned hospitals, I know they have a beach on a really crappy and dirty lake, I know the downtown actually looks nice, I know they get horrendous winters, I know I don't want to live there.
I would say that Cleveland copies Pittsburgh, especially because Pittsburgh doesn't nearly have as many 5 star restaurants and museums and definitely not as many theaters.
Some areas "look like Detroit", in the sense that they're partially abandoned, mostly African American and not usually safe, but there are those neighborhoods in every city.
The MSA went down in Clevland by only a couple thousand in about 3 years, which isn't terrible but isn't good. They expect a rise in population in the next few years, so I wouldn't be too worried about the population.
Cleveland doesn't have a beach. Cleveland has several beaches. Some are better than others, but most of them are good and Lake Erie isn't that dirty. Mostly just in areas closer to downtown.
I don't care much for Cleveland. I am unable to find many redeeming qualities about the city, or anything that really shows it's turned itself around. I do take issue with people who don't respect the actual size of a city. Suggesting Fresno is larger than Cleveland is beyond stupid.
That's like saying Oklahoma City is bigger than Atlanta.
What you're saying is like saying Cleveland is bigger than New York because Cleveland has more land. It's all about the metro population. Fresno has like 900,000. Cleveland has over 2 million. In Fresno's CSA there's only a little over 1 million people, but Cleveland has over 3.5 million.
What you're saying is like saying Cleveland is bigger than New York because Cleveland has more land. It's all about the metro population. Fresno has like 900,000. Cleveland has over 2 million. In Fresno's CSA there's only a little over 1 million people, but Cleveland has over 3.5 million.
No, that is not what I'm saying at all.
We are on the same page. What I'm saying has nothing to do with land. It has to do with city population, which is often misleading, vs metro population, which is the best indicator of a city's overall size.
We are on the same page. What I'm saying has nothing to do with land. It has to do with city population, which is often misleading, vs metro population, which is the best indicator of a city's overall size.
No it's not. The only place that goes by the cities population is New York. Everywhere else is usually the metro population. What you're saying is like saying that suburbs are a city of their own and are 100% separate from the major city that they surround. You're completely leaping over the metro and combined statistical populations.
NBC News had a terrific story today about the hypocrisy of Clevelanders burning LeBron James jerseys four years ago and now dancing in the streets. No mention whatsoever of the upcoming RNC.
That pretty much sums up Cleveland, I guess.
Oh, you mean like the 3 or 4 people they showed on national tv, and spun it that the whole city was burning Lebron jerseys, and made it seem like we were rioting in the streets? That hypocrisy? Yes people were upset about the way it went down 4 years ago, but there wasn't mass burnings of jerseys, nor were there riots.
Remember, you're arguing with people who think Cleveland is the "next Hollywood" because "A Christmas Story" was filmed there 30 years ago and then that Drew Carey thing ...
And of course you also knew that "The Avengers 2012" was shot here, as well as "Draft Day," "Captain America...The Winter Solider"... "Jackass's Bad Grampa" also was partially filmed here. All recent movies. "To Kill An Irish Man" while most of it was shot in Detroit, was also set in Cleveland and based on a true story about Danny Greene the infamous Irish mobster, during a time when the Mafia was in their prime. And... more films to come. It looks as though the new "Ghostbusters 3" will be shot here.
World famous chef Michael Symon also hails from this city.
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I might be bias but anytime I heard Cleveland, I imagine of Drew Carey. I imagine that everybody i Cleveland look like him and his crew in the sitcom. I know this is wrong! ;D
Aside of that I am not sure what to think about Cleveland. Perhaps a small town with a strip of tall building close to the water. I drew that conclusion from again watching Drew Carey show.
I don't think Cleveland has come out from under the defunct rust-belt river-on-fire perception. That aside I think of it as very blue collar, down to earth, union-y. Like Pittsburgh.
Back in 2012 we went to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and spent a few days in town. I think Cleveland is a nice little city.
I am originally from West Orange, New Jersey so I'm familiar with New York and Newark. I also have experience with Boston and Philly.
BTW, do you know that Cleveland and urban Essex County, New Jersey are the only two places on earth where people use the word "ditch" to mean cut in line?
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