[wavehunter007]

Originally Posted by andthentherewere3

Neither did he. Last paragraph, different subject from his first two paragraphs. I think his first two paragraphs were in response to the posts regarding the "noreaster" being discussed for this weekend, which should actually be gone by Saturday. Geez, tempers run hot here on the Weather thread.

Glad to see someone is paying attention

[wavehunter007]

Originally Posted by Cambium

Without posting links or stats lets think about it... The Ocean is to our East...


The only influence is the storms coming up the coast or a NorEaster which will wrap around the warm moisture.

I will agree to some extent that the coastline might have a hard time seeing snow but 10 miles inland is a different story...and yes, it is rare for November but not sure if I can say December until I see previous records.

1) First a geography lesson: There is an ocean to the south and east of Connecticut. It’s called the Atlantic Ocean. Long Island (an island) is 12 miles wide. Then there is 1000 miles of ocean. Then you hit the Bahamas – lol.

2) The temp of the Atlantic Ocean is a very signifcant player in terms of snow in the Tri-State area – especially Long Island and Connecticut under 500 foot elevation (basically south/east of I-84). If you look at average seasonal snowfall rates…between interior central/western Massachusetts/interior central NY State…and Long Island/southern Connecticut…seasonal snowfall rates fall off a cliff. Worchester, MA, (70 inches of snow annually) and Albany, NY (66 inches of snow annually) get two and three times more snow than places like NYC (22 inches) Bridgeport, CT (24 inches), New London/Norwich, CT ( 17 inches of snow annually).

3) When low pressure (L) moves to the west of CT/LI…the wind is from a southerly direction (off the Atlantic ocean). A Low moving through the eastern Great Lakes will pull south winds over the Tri-State area. This is why they might be getting snow rates at an inch an hour in Cleveland or western PA…and it’s raining in Trenton and Hartford. Yes, when low pressure moves east/south of the Tri-State area, or out into the ocean (40/70 roughly), it will pull cold air down. However, that is a 3 in 10 chance compared to how many lows will pull through the Great Lakes is winter. So yes, if the was land south of us, or the Atlantic south of us was frozon soild from Nov 1 to March 30th...life in winter would be quite different here. The Atlantic south of Connecticut is a huge player quite often in winter!


PS. Just so you know...in the next 3 months...I route for lows to move through the Great Lakes -

[Cambium]

Killington WebCam. Lots of snow from this cheesy Nor Easter here. Killington - Mountain View Cam (http://www.killington.com/winter/multimedia/webcam/mountainview.html - broken link)

[Cambium]

My first “Winter Storm” call for the season….

Here’s a storm that could bring some snow “accumulation” to the area….

OCTOBER 26-28….

LETS HOPE THE INGREDIANTS COME TOGETHER.

[Lowerdeck]

As long as it's not raining/snowing/craptastic October 23rd and 30th anywhere in the Northeast, I'm fine.

[HeadedWest]

Originally Posted by Cambium

My first “Winter Storm” call for the season….

Here’s a storm that could bring some snow “accumulation” to the area….

OCTOBER 26-28….

LETS HOPE THE INGREDIANTS COME TOGETHER.

Let's hope not.

[jp03]

Originally Posted by HeadedWest

Let's hope not.

No chance in hell

[Cambium]

Nope. Ingrediants not coming together.. Nov. 1st next chance... Elevations above 3000 feet will see snow this week and next.

[jp03]

Originally Posted by Cambium

Nope. Ingrediants not coming together.. Nov. 1st next chance... Elevations above 3000 feet will see snow this week and next.

WELL ...I will say it will get unseasonably cold the first week of November along the East coast. Could see the first flakes no doubt.

[wavehunter007]

Just to keep the weather hype down to acceptable levels…nowhere from Rhode Island southward on the East Coast has a shot in heck of seeing snow in the next month. The latest models show a WARMER than normal pattern till mid November this year...so there is even less a chance. This will only help boost Atlantic Ocean temps/and ground temps in December. I know there are many winter fans but they should be realistic. Warmer than normal conditions will prevail all around us in the coming 4 to 6 weeks. We will be lucky if we see any snow before late December according to much of the short term data:

Just ask Bret:

AccuWeather.com - Brett Anderson | Weekly Long Range Forecast Outlook (http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/anderson/story/39024/weekly-long-range-forecast-outlook-1.asp - broken link)