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Old 08-09-2019, 03:08 AM
 
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The homeless population is an issue, nationwide. A major intersection like Main and Elmwood is kind of problematic to have a large concentration of the homeless, but there is no ideal solution. If the solution was simply to find housing it could be solved, but much of the issue is tied to the lack of funds for mental health treatment and veterans with insufficient income to support themselves.
Transitions is literally half a block south of that intersection, which likely explains the congregation.
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Old 08-09-2019, 06:17 AM
 
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Mixed use mixed income live work are all opportunities to create a suitable environment that could be affordable.One reason why I like the food hall concept is that it is an intermediate step between a food truck and a bricks and mortar restaurant It can provide a niche for the entrepreneur that is not on solid footing in either category while capitalizing on being in a location that has a draw. NOMA is likely uniquely positioned to support this type of concept because of its location between downtown and Bull Street and access to 277 and 126 not to mention the surrounding neighborhoods
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Old 08-12-2019, 07:12 AM
 
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Transitions is literally half a block south of that intersection, which likely explains the congregation.
I work across the street. They are not a hidden group. A very small minority of them are the most visible. Crossing the street against lights or just in the middle of the block, almost causing accidents. Yelling and fighting. The morning coffee lot had a big fight that attracted 6 police units just a few weeks ago. Not sure what to do to help adults that still can't follow some of the most basic of social contracts. Can you keep a job if you can't even cross the street legally?

Again, that is just the very visible minority of that group. But those are the ones that people see.
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Old 08-20-2019, 03:00 PM
 
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It looks like they are going to be replacing the 2 lane flyover ramp going from SC-277 northbound to I-77 northbound and Farrow Road. The bridge doesn't seem like it's in that bad a shape, but maybe its "lifespan" is nearing an end?

I did notice the current bridge is one of those reinforced concrete structures they make using a form supported by scaffolding, pour the concrete and let it harden, then they remove the scaffolding and form, maybe the new bridge will be one of those with steel girders?

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Old 08-20-2019, 07:07 PM
 
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It looks like they are going to be replacing the 2 lane flyover ramp going from SC-277 northbound to I-77 northbound and Farrow Road. The bridge doesn't seem like it's in that bad a shape, but maybe its "lifespan" is nearing an end?

I did notice the current bridge is one of those reinforced concrete structures they make using a form supported by scaffolding, pour the concrete and let it harden, then they remove the scaffolding and form, maybe the new bridge will be one of those with steel girders?
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Old 08-21-2019, 08:07 AM
 
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277 has always struck me as somewhat of an odd Freeway. As most know it was supposed to continue on over North Main around Elmwood Park and intersect with 126 at Huger St with a later phase continuing through the vista parallel to Huger down towards the USC Stadium with exits serving the downtown area (that is what was master planned anyway). Instead SCDOT opted to terminate it at Bull Street.. widen Bull Street, Elmwood Ave and Gervais Street to capture the traffic that would have been generated by these freeways.


Someone posted in this forum the idea that North Main just doesn't receive the traffic that other corridors do into downtown and that, in part, is the reason for the slow growth in retail/commercial activity. People are just not familiar with the corridor (North Main).



This spur could provide a nice "parkway" type entrance to NOMA and thus the CBD while diverting some downtown bound traffic to Main street.. It could ease Bull Street @ Elmwood as well especially as The Bull Street development takes off. If designed correctly it could also provide better pedestrian, bike and vehicle connectivity from the Palmetto Richland Hospital complex and the medical office park on Sunset to North Main/NOMA as well.


https://www.google.com/maps/place/Columbia,+SC/@34.0257418,-81.0378812,957m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x88f8a5697931d1e3:0xf3280 8f4b379fa96!8m2!3d34.0007104!4d-81.0348144

The actual right of way comes and includes Grace Street.. just above Cromers and below the warehouse

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0266...7i13312!8i6656













https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0245242,-81.0422544,3a,48.4y,37.1h,87.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5BAAAvxw2V4c-FGWaUUL8A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

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Old 08-21-2019, 09:51 AM
 
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277 has always struck me as somewhat of an odd Freeway. As most know it was supposed to continue on over North Main around Elmwood Park and intersect with 126 at Huger St with a later phase continuing through the vista parallel to Huger down towards the USC Stadium with exits serving the downtown area (that is what was master planned anyway). Instead SCDOT opted to terminate it at Bull Street.. widen Bull Street, Elmwood Ave and Gervais Street to capture the traffic that would have been generated by these freeways.


Someone posted in this forum the idea that North Main just doesn't receive the traffic that other corridors do into downtown and that, in part, is the reason for the slow growth in retail/commercial activity. People are just not familiar with the corridor (North Main).



This spur could provide a nice "parkway" type entrance to NOMA and thus the CBD while diverting some downtown bound traffic to Main street.. It could ease Bull Street @ Elmwood as well especially as The Bull Street development takes off. If designed correctly it could also provide better pedestrian, bike and vehicle connectivity from the Palmetto Richland Hospital complex and the medical office park on Sunset to North Main/NOMA as well.


https://www.google.com/maps/place/Columbia,+SC/@34.0257418,-81.0378812,957m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x88f8a5697931d1e3:0xf3280 8f4b379fa96!8m2!3d34.0007104!4d-81.0348144

The actual right of way comes and includes Grace Street.. just above Cromers and below the warehouse

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0266...7i13312!8i6656













https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0245242,-81.0422544,3a,48.4y,37.1h,87.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5BAAAvxw2V4c-FGWaUUL8A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Any idea if the city owns the land between 277 and N. Main? It seems to be completely undeveloped.
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Old 08-21-2019, 01:07 PM
 
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Any idea if the city owns the land between 277 and N. Main? It seems to be completely undeveloped.


Either the City or the State.. Most of the land along the proposed road right of way was owed by the state but conveyed to the city.. especially the land between North Main and Park Street where the community garden is located.. Much of the old proposed right of way was also purchased/conveyed to CSX when they abandoned the track that used to run by Finlay Park and moved it to the one that runs around the Cemetery.. which was the proposed route of the road until it intersected 126..


The City has been sitting on the land between Park and N. Main.. maybe they will either turn it into more parkland/open space or use it to spur development? Not sure which
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Old 08-21-2019, 03:23 PM
 
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This spur could provide a nice "parkway" type entrance to NOMA and thus the CBD while diverting some downtown bound traffic to Main street.. It could ease Bull Street @ Elmwood as well especially as The Bull Street development takes off. If designed correctly it could also provide better pedestrian, bike and vehicle connectivity from the Palmetto Richland Hospital complex and the medical office park on Sunset to North Main/NOMA as well.
Let me first preface this by saying I would love if they would widen the entire length of SC-277 to 3 lanes in each direction.

Now in terms of a "spur" from that bend in SC-277 over to Main St., I think that would be a great idea, and it even looks like that was sort of the plan with the 3-lane bridges over SC-16 (they just use 2 of those lanes on SC-277), but my only concern would be with the northbound traffic from this spur merging onto SC-277, then you also have all the traffic from SC-16 entering SC-277 from that on ramp and it could be a bigger nightmare than it already is during afternoon rush hour.

I guess if you added a 3rd lane on SC-277 from this proposed spur up to I-77 with no merge involved, it would lighten the burden a wee bit.
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Old 08-21-2019, 08:58 PM
 
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Let me first preface this by saying I would love if they would widen the entire length of SC-277 to 3 lanes in each direction.

Now in terms of a "spur" from that bend in SC-277 over to Main St., I think that would be a great idea, and it even looks like that was sort of the plan with the 3-lane bridges over SC-16 (they just use 2 of those lanes on SC-277), but my only concern would be with the northbound traffic from this spur merging onto SC-277, then you also have all the traffic from SC-16 entering SC-277 from that on ramp and it could be a bigger nightmare than it already is during afternoon rush hour.

I guess if you added a 3rd lane on SC-277 from this proposed spur up to I-77 with no merge involved, it would lighten the burden a wee bit.
Yes but then you’d have to add lights right there (not the best place or option, as it’d seriously back up traffic being that close to sunset) or costly on/off ramps. Though I think lights would look better with a pkwy type setup, they definitely wouldn’t be most effective. And those ramps would look outta place. And it’d be extremely too costly to tunnel them under and then up.
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