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Old 09-21-2016, 09:04 AM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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so yes Finn, you have gone a long way in clearing this up for me, ty
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:06 AM
 
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please. this is like saying "i know where everyone goes when they die--the bosom of Abraham!" lol
Not at all. After all, we do not go to Abraham's bosom.
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:07 AM
 
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Is there a membership card or another way to validate one has been sanctioned?
You could say so.

"When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,"
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:08 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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yes, but you have to understand "you will know them by their fruit." which i'm not sure i do.
So are apples preferred over oranges? Where do bananas rate compared to tomatoes??
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:10 AM
 
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So are apples preferred over oranges? Where do bananas rate compared to tomatoes??
ya, that was kind of my initial first reaction. But i don't think that is quite the analogy. All of these taste good to us, generally speaking. I guess prophesying, working miracles etc are not really considered "fruit" like kindness, grace, humility etc?

the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control.
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:11 AM
 
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You could say so.

"When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,"
What is there to prove one is?? Cain was marked, does your god mark those who have been sanctioned?

Where exactly is that seal? Is it anything like a tramp-stamp tattoo?



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Old 09-21-2016, 09:14 AM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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What is there to prove one is?? Cain was marked, does your god mark those who have been sanctioned?

Where exactly is that seal? Is it anything like a tramp-stamp tattoo?


lol. I think this seal is obvious, to witnesses of it, and it resides in those people that we would all agree exhibit fruit of the spirit. The ones who generally do not post on forums, prolly.
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:25 AM
 
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ya, that was kind of my initial first reaction. But i don't think that is quite the analogy. All of these taste good to us, generally speaking. I guess prophesying, working miracles etc are not really considered "fruit" like kindness, grace, humility etc?

the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control.
Now you are beginning to understand. Yesterday you were still thinking it was all about keeping the law.

Works: "Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God's sight by the works of the law"

Righteousness: "righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile"

Salvation: For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-- not by works, so that no one can boast.

Seal of the Spirit: When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised [b] Holy Spirit[/B

Fruits of the Spirit: love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control

It is not the fruit which grants you entrance. The fruit is simply the manifestation of the Spirit.
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Where exactly is that seal? Is it anything like a tramp-stamp tattoo?
It should be obvious, but maybe not......
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Old 09-21-2016, 10:07 AM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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oh, it's patently obvious, don't kid yourself.
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