Christian, your theology is overrated. (hell, believe, sinners, Holy Spirit)
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What about "not of works" that you don't understand? That is so simple even a cave man can understand it.
What part do you not understand that faith "without works" is dead. You fundies are the first folk to say that not everyone who says they are Christian are not. Tell me, how do you determine this if not by works?.
Even a caveman could understand that works done out of no other motive other than love trumps "I believe in Jesus" whose lives are no different to the assumed sinners they condemn.
Of course not. This is essentially why so many fundamentalist apologists have abandoned the forum. They at least recognize the bankruptcy of their apologetics even though they refuse to abandon them. The few who remain bluster like Finn or avoid facing the difficult questions. You won't see any of the ones involved in the conversation jumping in to answer the question either.
What we understand is your inability to understand the answer and will reject anything that you personally believe/not believe.
The question has been answered, you just don't like it or don't undersatnd it.
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Originally Posted by nateswift
So far, omega2xx, NO one has explained the difference between the "Lord, Lord" of those who were condemned and the confession of faith you say merits the "seal." I have asked for clarification of this but if you see an answer, please point it out to me, or even better, just go ahead and answer it now. WHAT is missing from the "Lord, Lord" that is present in the qualifying "confession?"
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Originally Posted by omega2xx
What about "not of works" that you don't understand? That is so simple even a cave man can understand it.
Simple, and yet you don't seem to be able to answer a simple question about it.
Your badmouthing Christians who do not believe your home-made theology certainly doesn't exhibit the fruit of the Spirit. It would be helpful if you would get the plank out of your own eye before you try to get the speck out of anyone else's eye.
You are a bunch of bible munchers who think believing it is the fruit of the spirit. It isn't and a caveman can understand that too.
I think you're right Nate. There is one thing a fundy hates and that is to show them the flaws in what they believe and more to the point what they believe is truth. If they had something to answer the things they are rattled by they most certainly would stick around. Wd know from the scriptures too, that Jesus continually sent them packing with his words.
To bad you don't understand enough of the Bible to do that.
The subject is not about going to heaven or living by it. It is about is believing in Jesus the only requirement for going to heaven.
So post a verse that makes living by it, a requirement.
Post the verse that makes living by it ? . You are showing your true colors, you believe that salvation is about going to heaven and believing that is the pass to it
Read your bible, Jesus Christ taught doing throughout the whole of the 4 gospels, not to attain a pass, but to live how he desires all of us to live. It's kingdom living if you haven't heard, anything other is a looks like form of godliness( only to the gullible) that denies the power.
He answered teh question. Evidently you do not understand what he said.
What he said did not make sense and I asked for clarification, which neither he nor you seems competent to provide. All you seem to have is meaningless buzz words. If they actually had meaning you should be able to explain that in other words, but you can't.
It also helped them understand no one can meet God's standard of righteousness, and that they need a savior.
Right. To bad the "works = salvation folks, dont understand it.
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