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Old 09-22-2016, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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First of all it was not a confession, it was boasting to remind Jesus of how good they were. All you need to do to KNOW if hey were sincere is to look at Jesus response to them. What does that tell you?
I am asking what it tells YOU. If it was not a statement of faith as calling someone "Lord" seems to me to be, what WAS it? The boasting comes in a later passage.
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Old 09-22-2016, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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sorry, but what you did here is suggest that they had no confession prior to their death, in order to make confession = salvation imo. They had a confession all right. That they weren't sincere is obvious.
Hello! What makes a confession "sincere?"
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Old 09-22-2016, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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I see that I was editing AFTER some responses that I missed, so I am reposting.

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ALL that I have asked you to do is to distinguish the bolded "When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit" in the confession of faith by those who were rejected even though they SAID "Lord, Lord."

I have asked this in different ways and from different directions from different people who say that "Believe" is the key and I get NO answer. WHY?


Try a different direction: WHAT is the difference between the "demons who believe and tremble" and those who receive the "seal?"

Finn even stated that faith is not just an intellectual acknowledgement, but seemed unable to tell how it is different from an intellectual acknowldegement.

Well, hello! your last phrase touches on the answer to which we can all agree, but you can't seem to put it into place.
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Old 09-22-2016, 08:07 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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The Light of God himself is much brighter.

For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,†is the One who has shone in our hearts to give us the Light of the knowledge of the glory and majesty of God [clearly revealed] in the face of Christ

God is hid within the darkness of all mankind.
The Shekinah glory of God cannot be hidden. Those sitting in darkness can't SEE it, because Satan has blinded them so they cannot SEE the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ who is the image of God(2 Cor 4:4).

Give up your home-made theology and just believe what God says. Study to show yourself approved. Then become a Berean Christian.
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Old 09-22-2016, 08:11 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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You are a bunch of bible munchers who think believing it is the fruit of the spirit. It isn't and a caveman can understand that too.
Even after being told, you still are not exhibiting the fruit of the Spirit, by insulting those who reject your home-made theology, and that is so simple even a cave child can understand that.
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Old 09-22-2016, 08:14 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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Post the verse that makes living by it ? . You are showing your true colors, you believe that salvation is about going to heaven and believing that is the pass to it

Read your bible, Jesus Christ taught doing throughout the whole of the 4 gospels, not to attain a pass, but to live how he desires all of us to live. It's kingdom living if you haven't heard, anything other is a looks like form of godliness( only to the gullible) that denies the power.
Pontification does not answer the question. You would if you could, but you can't. Now everyone KNOWS else you can't.
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Old 09-22-2016, 08:16 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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That's funny, I seem to spend most of my time having to show you scriptures which contradict your beliefs.
What is funny is what you just said.
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Old 09-22-2016, 08:18 AM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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Are you saying that "DOING" is what is important as opposed to "claiming?"
oops.
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Old 09-22-2016, 08:21 AM
 
Location: N. Fort Myers, FL
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We love because God FIRST loved us. Until we FIRST love God with all our heart, soul, mind and strength. we cannot love our neighbor as our self.
a kid can, so i'm not buyin it, sorry.
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Old 09-22-2016, 08:22 AM
 
Location: knoxville, Tn.
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Too bad the repentance club does not under stand the process.

LOVE = GRACE = MERCY = JUSTICE
---------------HUMILITY----------------
None of those are possible until Jesus becomes our Savior. Even then, sinful human beings cannot exhibit them 100%, 100% of the time. When we are converted, they become our goals, but not accomplished completely.

It is a good that that God only looks at our heart not on our outward appearance. We accomplish them 100% spiritually when they become the desires of our heart to please God.
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