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Old 02-26-2012, 11:17 AM
 
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Liberation theology[1] is a Christian movement in political theology which interprets the teachings of Jesus Christ in terms of a liberation from unjust economic, political, or social conditions. It has been described by proponents as "an interpretation of Christian faith through the poor's suffering, their struggle and hope, and a critique of society and the Catholic faith and Christianity through the eyes of the poor"

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Prosperity theology (sometimes referred to as the prosperity gospel or the "health and wealth" gospel)[A] is a Christian religious doctrine which claims the Bible teaches that financial blessing is the will of God for Christians. The doctrine teaches that faith, positive speech, and donations to Christian ministries will always increase one's material wealth.

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Old 02-26-2012, 12:27 PM
 
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Liberation theology[1] is a Christian movement in political theology which interprets the teachings of Jesus Christ in terms of a liberation from unjust economic, political, or social conditions. It has been described by proponents as "an interpretation of Christian faith through the poor's suffering, their struggle and hope, and a critique of society and the Catholic faith and Christianity through the eyes of the poor"

Liberation theology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Prosperity theology (sometimes referred to as the prosperity gospel or the "health and wealth" gospel)[A] is a Christian religious doctrine which claims the Bible teaches that financial blessing is the will of God for Christians. The doctrine teaches that faith, positive speech, and donations to Christian ministries will always increase one's material wealth.

Prosperity theology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Christianity can never be "liberation theology" since it teaches one to be a good slave. That is why Islam is gaining so many converts from countries that were formerly "conquered" by christian missionaries.

Your sticking point is this:

Romans 13:1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except by God’s appointment, and the authorities that exist have been instituted by God. 13:2 So the person who resists such authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will incur judgment.

You cannot be liberated while simultaneously obeying the very same authority that is oppressing you.

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Old 02-26-2012, 12:28 PM
 
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I can't really speak to Liberation Theology, but Prosperity Theology is definitely un-Christian.
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:42 PM
 
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Christianity can never be "liberation theology" since it teaches one to be a good slave.
Would you care to explain that in the context of the work of Martin Luther King Jr, Archbishop Oscar Romero or Bishop Desmond Tutu?
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Old 02-27-2012, 06:32 PM
 
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For what it is worth, the Book of Mormon teaches both prosperity theology and liberation theology.

Prosperity and a little Liberation

Alma 62:45-51:
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"45 Therefore, Helaman and his brethren went forth, and did declare the word of God with much power unto the convincing of many people of their wickedness, which did cause them to repent of their sins and to be baptized unto the Lord their God. 46 And it came to pass that they did establish again the church of God, throughout all the land.
47 Yea, and regulations were made concerning the law. And their judges, and their chief judges were chosen.
48 And the people of Nephi began to prosper again in the land, and began to multiply and to wax exceedingly strong again in the land. And they began to grow exceedingly rich.
49 But notwithstanding their riches, or their strength, or their prosperity, they were not lifted up in the pride of their eyes; neither were they slow to remember the Lord their God; but they did humble themselves exceedingly before him.
50 Yea, they did remember how great things the Lord had done for them, that he had delivered them from death, and from bonds, and from prisons, and from all manner of afflictions, and he had delivered them out of the hands of their enemies.
51 And they did pray unto the Lord their God continually, insomuch that the Lord did bless them, according to his word, so that they did wax strong and prosper in the land."
Prosperity

Helaman 12:1-3:
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"...yea, we can see that the Lord in his great infinite goodness doth bless and prosper those who put their trust in him. 2 Yea, and we may see at the very time when he doth prosper his people, yea, in the increase of their fields, their flocks and their herds, and in gold, and in silver, and in all manner of precious things of every kind and art; sparing their lives, and delivering them out of the hands of their enemies; softening the hearts of their enemies that they should not declare wars against them; yea, and in fine, doing all things for the welfare and happiness of his people; yea, then is the time that they do harden their hearts, and do forget the Lord their God, and do trample under their feet the Holy One—yea, and this because of their ease, and their exceedingly great prosperity.
3 And thus we see that except the Lord doth chasten his people with many afflictions, yea, except he doth visit them with death and with terror, and with famine and with all manner of pestilence, they will not remember him."
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4th Nephi 1:2-3:
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2 And it came to pass in the thirty and sixth year, the people were all converted unto the Lord, upon all the face of the land, both Nephites and Lamanites, and there were no contentions and disputations among them, and every man did deal justly one with another. 3 And they had all things common among them; therefore there were not rich and poor, bond and free, but they were all made free, and partakers of the heavenly gift.

Mosiah 21:14-16:
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14 And they did humble themselves even in the depths of humility; and they did cry mightily to God; yea, even all the day long did they cry unto their God that he would deliver them out of their afflictions.
15 And now the Lord was slow to hear their cry because of their iniquities; nevertheless the Lord did hear their cries, and began to soften the hearts of the Lamanites that they began to ease their burdens; yet the Lord did not see fit to deliver them out of bondage.
16 And it came to pass that they began to prosper by degrees in the land, and began to raise grain more abundantly, and flocks, and herds, that they did not suffer with hunger.
Long story cut short, as they continued to follow God, God delivered them from bondage.
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Old 02-27-2012, 07:17 PM
 
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Would you care to explain that in the context of the work of Martin Luther King Jr, Archbishop Oscar Romero or Bishop Desmond Tutu?
They are affiliated with religions, but that doesn't mean that christianity is liberation theology. If they had been atheists, their message would have been just as clear.

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Old 02-27-2012, 07:26 PM
 
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Liberation theology in the context of Catholicism has made great strides in Brazil, though the current Pope is definitely not a fan.
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:47 PM
 
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Liberation Theology
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Old 03-15-2014, 04:58 PM
 
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If ones faith is biased on theology, it is not the relationship God intended.
Jesus did not teach academics , He taught relationship.
He provided the Holy Spirit to teach in His place .
Ones obedience to God in this life, will have a direct influence to the next.
Jesus fallowed the same pattern of reason found in all of God's relationship through out the old testament.
Blessing for obedience ,consequences for disobedience .
Jesus stepped it up a level better than scriptures, in that accountability is not based on personal interpretation of scriptures but on a real relationship with God, having daily instruction from Him, Spirit dependent, not letter dependent.
Jesus established the criteria standard. "God is Spirit and they that worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth , He seeks these to worship Him."
Seeking God in academics of literary wisdom is not a relationship .
A desperate Prayer life will accomplish a lot more than memorization of scriptures.
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Old 03-15-2014, 05:43 PM
 
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Christianity can never be "liberation theology" since it teaches one to be a good slave. That is why Islam is gaining so many converts from countries that were formerly "conquered" by christian missionaries.
So, basically, people are leaving countries which have abolished slavery (I don't think there is a "Christian" nation that allows it) for a theology that has countries in their camp that do allow slavery?

Weird.
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