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Old 09-05-2012, 05:47 PM
 
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You accuse others who believe in keeping the Ten Commandments and all the statutes, judgments and laws and spiritual magnifications that are related to the Ten as being legalists, do you not?

What you have written above is legalistic. Since you can't find a specific "thou shalt" or "thou shalt not..." you have determined that the Sabbath has been done away with, which is not true. Where is the command about kidnapping, did I overlook it? I guess your legalistic approach cannot account for that or will you compromise and say it is covered by this or that general command. I can use this same argument and point out to you that the Sabbath is also covered by a more general command as well:

Mark 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

How does one love God:

The commandments 1-4 show love to God as the last 6 show love toward neighbor.

When you keep the Sabbath you are showing love toward God and fulfilling the First of the two Great Commandments.
You should be quoting Jesus concerning which of the ten commandments to keep if you are to follow Jesus. He clarified it all in Matthew 19 to the rich man.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:52 PM
 
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If they were not assembled on the Feast of Weeks (Pentecost) they would not have received God's Holy Spirit. Need I go further and point out every observance in the New Testament by Christ and the early Church? Note, there is no mention of the days of Baal like you and others worship on today and you even dare to call the pagan days "Christian." You and others are in rebellion against God! (Romans 8:7)
Yea, and that was when Pentecost was fullfiled and not to be observed again like that.
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:23 PM
 
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The only thing that will keep you from inheriting the Kingdom of Heaven is not accept Jesus Christ. Nothing else at all.
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:27 PM
 
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Yea, and that was when Pentecost was fullfiled and not to be observed again like that.
Paul kept Pentecost:

Acts 20:16 For Paul had decided to sail past Ephesus, so that he might not have to spend time in Asia; for he was hastening to be at Jerusalem, if possible, on the day of Pentecost.

1 Cor 16:8 But I will stay in Ephesus until Pentecost,

And so are true Christians today.
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:32 PM
 
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The only thing that will keep you from inheriting the Kingdom of Heaven is not accept Jesus Christ. Nothing else at all.
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:54 PM
 
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Matthew 7;21,22,23,

John 15;
Jesus said so.
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Old 09-05-2012, 09:47 PM
 
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What will keep one from inheriting the Kingdom of Heaven?

"An unhealthy mental state or attitude."
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Old 09-06-2012, 08:12 AM
 
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Paul kept Pentecost:

Acts 20:16 For Paul had decided to sail past Ephesus, so that he might not have to spend time in Asia; for he was hastening to be at Jerusalem, if possible, on the day of Pentecost.

1 Cor 16:8 But I will stay in Ephesus until Pentecost,

And so are true Christians today.
No he became as one under the law [yet realy under the law of Christ] so as to gain some that were under the law. Paul knew that the law is good if a man use it lawfully and he did so as to not offend needlessly. When all was said and done however, he made it clear that we are not under the law and that those Holy days do not add to one's salvation.
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:49 AM
 
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No he became as one under the law [yet realy under the law of Christ] so as to gain some that were under the law. Paul knew that the law is good if a man use it lawfully and he did so as to not offend needlessly. When all was said and done however, he made it clear that we are not under the law and that those Holy days do not add to one's salvation.
No, modern Christianity is a pagan Baal worshiping religion. Paul did not engage in Baal worship. He kept God's Commandments and kept the Seventh Day Sabbath. He kept God's Holy Days. And so are true Christians today to keep them. The animal sacrifices were no longer required after the crucifixion.

What you are implying by not being under the law is to do your own thing to prove that you are lawless and that you answer to no one. That is without law and despising submission to anything or anybody.

Jude denounces these "christians":

Jude: [KJV]
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Jude: [ERV]
4 Some people have secretly entered your group. These people have already been judged guilty for what they are doing. Long ago the prophets wrote about them. They are against God. They have used the grace of our God in the wrong way--to do sinful things. They refuse to follow Jesus Christ, our only Master and Lord.

And many today are using the grace of God as an excuse to do many sinful things like worshiping on pagan days of worship such as Sunday, Christmas and Easter. They are not following Christ because Christ kept His Father's Commandments and worshiped on the Days the Holy Scriptures commanded one to worship God on.

And if it is a death penalty crime to profane God's Holy Sabbath, how much more of a sin is it to substitute a pagan day for a Holy Day of God? Think about it. One would think God to be a pushover and yet God is so concerned about sin that He had to send the Word in the form of a human being called Jesus Christ to die because of all of our sins. Do you think that God has such a casual attitude toward sin as many seem to think He does? If you sin you will die the 2nd Death unless you repent whether it be Sabbath-breaking, murder, theft, etc, etc.

This nation had better wake up and repent of its casual, oh-God-doesn't-really-care attitude about sin!

Again, wake up!
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Old 09-06-2012, 05:06 PM
 
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No, modern Christianity is a pagan Baal worshiping religion. Paul did not engage in Baal worship. He kept God's Commandments and kept the Seventh Day Sabbath. He kept God's Holy Days. And so are true Christians today to keep them. The animal sacrifices were no longer required after the crucifixion.

What you are implying by not being under the law is to do your own thing to prove that you are lawless and that you answer to no one. That is without law and despising submission to anything or anybody.

Jude denounces these "christians":

Jude: [KJV]
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Jude: [ERV]
4 Some people have secretly entered your group. These people have already been judged guilty for what they are doing. Long ago the prophets wrote about them. They are against God. They have used the grace of our God in the wrong way--to do sinful things. They refuse to follow Jesus Christ, our only Master and Lord.

And many today are using the grace of God as an excuse to do many sinful things like worshiping on pagan days of worship such as Sunday, Christmas and Easter. They are not following Christ because Christ kept His Father's Commandments and worshiped on the Days the Holy Scriptures commanded one to worship God on.

And if it is a death penalty crime to profane God's Holy Sabbath, how much more of a sin is it to substitute a pagan day for a Holy Day of God? Think about it. One would think God to be a pushover and yet God is so concerned about sin that He had to send the Word in the form of a human being called Jesus Christ to die because of all of our sins. Do you think that God has such a casual attitude toward sin as many seem to think He does? If you sin you will die the 2nd Death unless you repent whether it be Sabbath-breaking, murder, theft, etc, etc.

This nation had better wake up and repent of its casual, oh-God-doesn't-really-care attitude about sin!

Again, wake up!
It is obvious you do not understand what the phrase "not under the law" means. It is in no way meaning a licence to sin.

ROM 3:7-8 "For if the truth of God has more abounded through my lie [what you and others consider a lie] unto His glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner? And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just."

You sir do not know it but you slander those who preach Grace and think that we are saying one can do evil and get away with it. Those statements of "not under law" and "Grace" is just too much for you to understand and so you resort to slander, false judgements and condemnation of those who by the Spirit are saved, not the law. Truly, truly if there had been a law given that could save one then it would not been needed for Christ to crusified and ressurrected.

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