Coronavirus (transplants, school districts, vouchers)

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by joosoon

...none of these political circle jerks change available science and the CDC doesn't even write California policy.

How do we know what influences the California policy? We could only speculate until recently whether CDC information was being manipulated.

Kyle McGowan, a former chief of staff at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and his deputy, Amanda Campbell, were installed in 2018 as two of the youngest political appointees in the history of the world’s premier public health agency, young Republicans returning to their native Georgia to dream jobs.

But what they witnessed during the coronavirus pandemic this year in the C.D.C.’s leadership suite on the 12-floor headquarters here shook them: Washington’s dismissal of science, the White House’s slow suffocation of the agency’s voice, the meddling in its messages and the siphoning of its budget.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/16/u...cdc-trump.html

House Subpoenas Health Secretary And CDC Chief As Documents Suggest Trump Appointees Interfered With Covid-19 Reports:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisond...h=6bbf8eb53c47

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by joosoon

Eh. I don't put a lot of faith in a subcommittee formed by Trump opposition. Besides, none of these political circle jerks change available science and the CDC doesn't even write California policy. This all goes back to the earliest arguments attempting to divert blame from state leadership. You and I disagree on this so it's not worth rehashing it all.

Maybe you should read about it rather than dismiss it? https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...-era-guidance/

[sav858]

CA still ranks dead last when it comes to school reopening/in class instruction. My kids are only have in-person class for a measly 6 hours a week. Thankfully their after school program is open for kids so they can more time there.

COVID: Gov. Newsom cites progress even as state lags in school reopening

Gov. Gavin Newsom visited a Sonoma County elementary school Wednesday to tout progress on school reopening efforts even as California ranks last among all states in the amount of in-person classroom instruction its public districts are offering students.


While districts throughout the state have recently started returning kids to classrooms, with more planned in weeks to come, those classes are overwhelmingly a “hybrid” mix of in-person learning and online “distance learning” at home, even as many students across the country returned to school full time months ago. And many of those hybrid plans offer just a few hours a week inside the classroom.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by Bigfoot312

People used to get drafted to go die in a corrupt war, we can handle a shut in year while we prevent the most devastating pandemic of the 21st century. Can’t believe this has to be explained at naseum.

Exactly.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by Bigfoot312

There’s a couple months left of school. There is zero sense in rushing this while cases are still high, young people haven’t been vaccinated, and we are on the cusp of getting a real handle on it. Or, did you like the previous method of closing opening closing opening and delaying getting back to real normal that we did all last year? Suck it up, it’s a lost year. People used to get drafted to go die kn a corrupt war, we can handle a shut in year while we prevent the most devastating pandemic of the 21st century. Can’t believe this has to be explained at naseum.

Cases aren’t high at all and we have some of the lowest metrics of the pandemic currently. Stop being so dramatic and exaggerative. Every single other state has reopened schools more so than Ca so don’t see why we should keep them closed at all.

If you don’t want your kids in the classroom you still have that option for distance learning so why are you even complaining? But plenty of people want in-person learning and our kids deserve that. Our kids were beyond thrilled to be back at school, it was so heartwarming to see their reactions the first day back.

Your chances of getting hospitalized or dying from COVID are miniscule. Yet you talk to me about “sucking it up”? How ironic....

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by sav858

Cases aren’t high at all and we have some of the lowest metrics of the pandemic currently. Stop being so dramatic and exaggerative.

"Dramatic and exaggerative"? There were 2,583 new confirmed coronavirus cases yesterday in our state.

Originally Posted by sav858

Your chances of getting hospitalized or dying from COVID are miniscule.

Unless you're one of the 391 Californians who died in the past 3 days of COVID-19.

[TheseGoTo11]

Originally Posted by sav858

Your chances of getting hospitalized or dying from COVID are miniscule.

A lot of people here don't know how to respond to things like denominators and case fatality rates for children. And why should they when they can just regurgitate teachers unions talking points?

[sav858]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

"Dramatic and exaggerative"? There were 2,583 new confirmed coronavirus cases yesterday in our state.



Unless you're one of the 391 Californians who died in the past 3 days of COVID-19.

Out of 40 million people. I trust you can do that math. So yes dramatic, exaggerative, and miniscule.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by Bigfoot312

Oh yes, my wife and brother are teachers who are forced to go back to work in person but I should just suck it up. You probably supported the Karen’s protesting to open up their damn salons. Your attempt at relating each parties need to “suck it up” is entirely unequivocal. One needs to just continue with online education for a couple months - think being a kid, you think going back to school and seeing all your friends in person is going to contribute to a better education in this juncture? Consider spring back/Christmas break fog x 100. The other party needs to suck up and risk their lives, their family’s lives, because you want a reprieve from your child being at home for 2 months.

****ing brilliant

Yes they do, as you stated people used to suck it up to go to war but your wife and brother can't take a chance every single other essential worker out there, including ones that get paid far less and much more dangerous environments, take? There is this weird double standard we have for teachers compared to all the other essential workers. And they should have been vaccinated already too so it makes even less sense why they can't "suck it up" like the rest of us.

You're the one that actually started relating people who need to suck it up with some asinine war comparison.

[sav858]

This state is such a joke. I wouldn't be surprised if some school districts remain DL or Hybrid come fall.

Gavin Newsom can't guarantee California schools will be open in the fall. Why not?

California Gov. Gavin Newsom said Wednesday that he hopes all of California's schools are open for in-person learning in the fall, but stopped short of a guarantee, stating, "Mandates are not as often looked on as favorably as you might think."

Public health experts now say schools can reopen safely for in-person learning with modifications, and while Newsom has come under fire for past mandates to close businesses and require mask-wearing in public, he expressed reticence to mandate a return to in-person learning