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Old 04-19-2021, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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You now stand a better chance of dying from the flu than from coronavirus

 
Old 04-20-2021, 12:18 AM
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Location: California
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You now stand a better chance of dying from the flu than from coronavirus
If you're vaccinated.
 
Old 04-20-2021, 12:21 AM
 
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If you're vaccinated.

or even if you're not and under 30, it's about a wash. Under 20, a better chance of dying of the flu than Covid.
 
Old 04-20-2021, 09:08 AM
 
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or even if you're not and under 30, it's about a wash. Under 20, a better chance of dying of the flu than Covid.
Your numbers are off a bit. At 30-40, you're about 10X more likely to die from COVID, but mostly because barely any 30-40-year-olds die from influenza. It becomes a wash around 20, and young children are much more likely to die from influenza (because quite a few do every year) than COVID.

Though COVID clearly kills them at a higher rate than it does 40-year-olds, elderly people actually have about the same risk (vs influenza) of dying from COVID (also a 10X higher chance) simply because influenza is pretty deadly to the elderly as well.
 
Old 04-20-2021, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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California 49th in school reopenings, ahead of only Hawaii.

https://cai.burbio.com/school-openin...eid=cc7807cfcb
 
Old 04-22-2021, 03:53 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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This should come as no surprise. So Newsom can ordered them closed but can't order them open????

California public schools see ‘sharp decline’ in enrollment

The California Department of Education data shows that the number of students at K-12 schools dropped by more than 160,000 this academic year, most of them at the K-6 level, to a total of 6 million.

The exodus was led by white students who account for just 22% of California’s public school population but represent about half of the departing students for the 2020-21 school year, which could increase disparities in California’s public education system.

When the pandemic hit and Gov. Gavin Newsom ordered public schools to close in March 2020, no one expected the closures would last as long as they did.
 
Old 04-22-2021, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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This should come as no surprise. So Newsom can ordered them closed but can't order them open????

California public schools see ‘sharp decline’ in enrollment

The California Department of Education data shows that the number of students at K-12 schools dropped by more than 160,000 this academic year, most of them at the K-6 level, to a total of 6 million.

The exodus was led by white students who account for just 22% of California’s public school population but represent about half of the departing students for the 2020-21 school year, which could increase disparities in California’s public education system.

When the pandemic hit and Gov. Gavin Newsom ordered public schools to close in March 2020, no one expected the closures would last as long as they did.
My sister enrolled my niece and nephew in a private school.

Criminal that he's so scared of the teachers unions, he refuses to open schools and won't even guarantee they'll open in Sept. No other state is experiencing this.
 
Old 04-22-2021, 06:26 PM
 
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This should come as no surprise. So Newsom can ordered them closed but can't order them open????

California public schools see ‘sharp decline’ in enrollment

The California Department of Education data shows that the number of students at K-12 schools dropped by more than 160,000 this academic year, most of them at the K-6 level, to a total of 6 million.

The exodus was led by white students who account for just 22% of California’s public school population but represent about half of the departing students for the 2020-21 school year, which could increase disparities in California’s public education system.

When the pandemic hit and Gov. Gavin Newsom ordered public schools to close in March 2020, no one expected the closures would last as long as they did.
If the children's parents don't want them to return, what can Newsom do about that? And if parents with the means to do so, choose to move their children to private schools that ARE offering in-person learning, he can't do anything about that either.

What schools need to do is what our district is doing: stop offering fully online learning from the regular public campuses. Students who want to stay online should be directed to dedicated online schools; everyone else needs to be back in the classroom. No third option.
 
Old 04-22-2021, 06:35 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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If the children's parents don't want them to return, what can Newsom do about that? And if parents with the means to do so, choose to move their children to private schools that ARE offering in-person learning, he can't do anything about that either.

What schools need to do is what our district is doing: stop offering fully online learning from the regular public campuses. Students who want to stay online should be directed to dedicated online schools; everyone else needs to be back in the classroom. No third option.
Obviously Newsom can't force parents to return to public schools, never suggested he could. But I don't get how he can force schools to close but not open. Obviously many left because they never offered full time in-person instruction.

Yeah I don't get this Distance Learning option they are offering, isn't that basically home schooling? It's obviously just to get funding for having a student technically enrolled. I just hope it doesn't take resources away from in-person instruction. If so it definitely should not be allowed.
 
Old 04-22-2021, 08:57 PM
 
Location: San Diego Native
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But I don't get how he can force schools to close but not open.

Technically, he didn't force them closed. But no doubt it was a huge error on his part not to have a reopening plan in place before the guidance was written which forced districts to remain closed. For the same reason, he doesn't technically have any power over those roughly thousand districts to force them to do anything. What he *can* do, is rescind the state guidance which would allow districts which still remain closed to proceed with reopening on their own terms. The bottom line here is liability and no district is/was going to defy state guidelines and go rogue, thus risking legal action brought by the state.





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Yeah I don't get this Distance Learning option they are offering, isn't that basically home schooling? It's obviously just to get funding for having a student technically enrolled.
Actually, no. There's a surprising number of parents who have opted to continue solely with distance learning. Locally, our district poured a lot of resources into the program and it was obvious way back they weren't going to just trash the whole thing in the immediate future. The option will remain for awhile, imo. I can't see how it won't both to satisfy needs and wants of those choosing it over in-person and the necessity of a backup system in case of outbreaks. There's also good reason to keep it to compete with pre-covid distance learning type models which at least one of the local charters offered. Why throw that out when it serves people's needs and interests? The pandemic has sort of reshaped how the schools are looking at these things. And that's a GOOD thing. Back in March of 2020, there was no plan to deal with something like covid. Maybe there will never be another pandemic, but we've learned from this and have workable contingency measures for it now.


The real issue on the horizon is the shortage of teachers.


edit: Local enrollment numbers.

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