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Old 08-12-2018, 10:04 AM
 
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I know I am not that smart, having been tricked by both dogs and cats.......
Good post all around, but I can't stop laughing at this part!
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Old 08-12-2018, 10:14 AM
 
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Look at the words I bolded in your post. If you don't understand why so many of the members here find your posts offensive, then your intellect is failing you. Instead of addressing a group of your peers (fellow human beings who happen to have found the City-Data forums), your posts come across as condescending as you talk down on those beneath you.

I peeked in on a thread in another CD forum a while back while they were discussing Mensa. I think you'd be very, very surprised how many CD members have qualified for membership. You ARE talking to your peers, in more ways than one.
True dat.

I am new here, and don't wish to cross the blurry border between religion and politics, but with every self-aggrandizing reference to "intellect," the first thing that comes to mind is this.......

Anyone who needs to publicly declare themselves a "Very Stable Genius" is very likely neither.
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Old 08-12-2018, 12:45 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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True dat.

I am new here, and don't wish to cross the blurry border between religion and politics, but with every self-aggrandizing reference to "intellect," the first thing that comes to mind is this.......

Anyone who needs to publicly declare themselves a "Very Stable Genius" is very likely neither.

Bear in mind 'Democratic republic". A guarantee that it is neither.
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Old 08-12-2018, 05:41 PM
 
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Look at the words I bolded in your post. If you don't understand why so many of the members here find your posts offensive, then your intellect is failing you. Instead of addressing a group of your peers (fellow human beings who happen to have found the City-Data forums), your posts come across as condescending as you talk down on those beneath you.

I peeked in on a thread in another CD forum a while back while they were discussing Mensa. I think you'd be very, very surprised how many CD members have qualified for membership. You ARE talking to your peers, in more ways than one.
Thank you, mensaguy, but I am well aware that there are Mensa-level intellects in the forum. I converse with them on the Mensa specific fora as well. It is not simply a matter of intellect, it is an issue of depth of exposure to and knowledge of the many areas of science that impinge on the issues. It is also a philosophical open-mindedness that is NOT common even among Mensans. Philosophical speculation on the frontiers of knowledge requires a unique perspective and a willingness to entertain hypotheses that can plausibly be extracted from the actual science. The disdain of the video posted because of its source is indicative of the philosophical close-mindedness masquerading under a skepticism about Woo.

I am not proselytizing but I will vigorously defend my understanding of both the science and the plausibility of my extrapolations into what atheists demeaningly call the Gaps for God. I am tired of being attacked and placed on the defensive about my intellect and any perceived arrogance, hubris, or condescension which is entirely in the mind of the perceivers. Why not just reject my views? Why the need to attack me personally over any perceived grievance about my attitude? The dependence on ad hominem just validates my belief about the lack of understanding of the underlying science and the rationale that leads to my extrapolations.
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Old 08-12-2018, 05:47 PM
 
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It's quite amusing to see the guy routinely insulting others intelligence because they won't accept his beliefs whining about being attacked with ad homs when it is simply pointed out that he is not the only smart guy in the room.
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Old 08-12-2018, 06:00 PM
 
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It's quite amusing to see the guy routinely insulting others intelligence because they won't accept his beliefs whining about being attacked with ad homs when it is simply pointed out that he is not the only smart guy in the room.
Hopeless! I didn't vote for Trump. I consider him an ass of monumental proportions. But I certainly can empathize with the unprecedentedly biased personal attacks on his every utterance while ignoring his actual achievements. The lack of objectivity in today's world is alarming. It was only in its infancy at my University when I retired, but it has become an epidemic in the academy.
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Old 08-12-2018, 06:28 PM
 
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Hopeless! I didn't vote for Trump. I consider him an ass of monumental proportions. But I certainly can empathize with the unprecedentedly biased personal attacks on his every utterance while ignoring his actual achievements. The lack of objectivity in today's world is alarming. It was only in its infancy at my University when I retired, but it has become an epidemic in the academy.
Why do you regard pointing out that everyone who doesn't agree with you is not stupid as an attack? You are the one who routinely insults others when they reject your arguments with something along the lines of them just not being intelligent enough to grasp it .

And your achievements are all your subjective opinion. If you have hard results, please post them . But all we see here are wild speculations masquerading as some sort of spiritual science .

I actually am empathetic towards you. I have somewhat of a non dualist view of things, along the lines of Advaita Vedanta Hinduism. But there are no facts to support this . And this is where you go wrong, trying to invent and claim scientific evidence where none exists .

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Old 08-12-2018, 07:46 PM
 
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And your achievements are all your subjective opinion. If you have hard results, please post them. But all we see here are wild speculations masquerading as some sort of spiritual science.
I recommend you look at the actual science referenced in the video that my critics poo-poo as pseudo-scientific Woo because of the source that compiled it to support an agenda. You need not accept their characterizations. See for yourself what the results suggest about our reality.
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I actually am empathetic towards you. I have somewhat of a non-dualist view of things, along the lines of Advaita Vedanta Hinduism. But there are no facts to support this. And this is where you go wrong, trying to invent and claim scientific evidence where none exists.
I was a Buddhist atheist for 18+ years prior to my encounter in deep meditation. Theravada Buddhism is birthed in the Advaita and the works of Adi Shankara. Gautama just didn't trust God or Brahma because he felt any permanent entity held out the possibility of continued Samsara. He wanted Nirvana to be an end to karma. I do not invent any scientific evidence. I plausibly extrapolate from existing science into what is disparagingly called the God of the Gaps.
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Old 08-12-2018, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I recommend you look at the actual science referenced in the video that my critics poo-poo as pseudo-scientific Woo because of the source that compiled it to support an agenda. You need not accept their characterizations. See for yourself what the results suggest about our reality. I was a Buddhist atheist for 18+ years prior to my encounter in deep meditation. Theravada Buddhism is birthed in the Advaita and the works of Adi Shankara. Gautama just didn't trust God or Brahma because he felt any permanent entity held out the possibility of continued Samsara. He wanted Nirvana to be an end to karma. I do not invent any scientific evidence. I plausibly extrapolate from existing science into what is disparagingly called the God of the Gaps.
As usual, you are trying to present something that is philosophical as scientific.
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Old 08-12-2018, 07:54 PM
 
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As usual, you are trying to present something that is philosophical as scientific.
All good and useful philosophy is grounded in science or it is just idle speculation.
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