[Igor Blevin]

NBC news is trying to spin against recent news that Florida is flipping red due to all of the conservatives moving their. NBC is just cherry picking in the hopes of scaring off some conservatives.

Are people leaving Florida due to costs and insurance problems, etc. Yes, but it is far from just conservatives. The lower middle class is having it tough right now in Florida.

[sinatras]

Originally Posted by Igor Blevin

NBC news is trying to spin against recent news that Florida is flipping red due to all of the conservatives moving their. NBC is just cherry picking in the hopes of scaring off some conservatives.

Are people leaving Florida due to costs and insurance problems, etc. Yes, but it is far from just conservatives. The lower middle class is having it tough right now in Florida.

Well I think we already know -- it's clear from the data -- that leftists are leaving Florida in droves. But I think it's new that conservatives are also leaving. And it's interesting to see the kinds of conservatives that are leaving.

[Chas863]

Originally Posted by sinatras

How about standing up for the rights of his people to NOT be fleeced by insurance companies????? I would have no complaints about DeSantis if he was actually doing something to rein in the gouging of Floridians by property insurers. Instead my insurance goes up by $2500 every single damn year.

Perhaps that's what the TRUE cost is for providing insurance for your property. Perhaps your property is close to the coast and subject to greater danger of hurricane damage.

My property is located well inland and worth perhaps $450K and I'm paying $3,100 per year for full coverage with extra high liability coverage. If your insurance premium goes up "by $2500 every single damn year" then perhaps it's because of the choices you make regarding location and features.

And, if insurance in Florida is such a rip-off, then why are several large insurance companies leaving the state? If they're making such a killing by "fleecing" the policyholders, then why wouldn't they stay and rake in all those profits?

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[Igor Blevin]

Originally Posted by sinatras

Well I think we already know -- it's clear from the data -- that leftists are leaving Florida in droves. But I think it's new that conservatives are also leaving. And it's interesting to see the kinds of conservatives that are leaving.

Massive inflation. Housing crisis. Insurance crisis for both homes and cars. Overcrowding. Infrastructure not keeping up with growth.

There is a lot of reasons pushing people out of Florida.

[Corrie22]

Originally Posted by Lillie767

Well some people are leaving Florida-

around a 1/2 million people move out of Florida every year....

Florida's population increases a little over 1/4 million every year

so somewhere around 3/4 million people are moving to Florida every year

..and yet, the number of registered democrats stays mostly the same year after year...if they are leaving in "droves".....they are being replaced in "droves"

[Chas863]

Originally Posted by Igor Blevin

Massive inflation. Housing crisis. Insurance crisis for both homes and cars. Overcrowding. Infrastructure not keeping up with growth.

There is a lot of reasons pushing people out of Florida.

But clearly, the numbers show that there are a lot more people moving IN than moving OUT. AND, when we consider the large number of elderly who die each year, then the influx must be great just to replace those people. In short, a LOT more people are voluntarily moving INTO Florida than are voluntarily moving OUT of Florida. And I don't expect this trend to change in the near future as long as DeSantis, or someone like him, is governor.


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[Chas863]

Originally Posted by Corrie22

around a 1/2 million people move out of Florida every year....

Florida's population increases a little over 1/4 million every year

so somewhere around 3/4 million people are moving to Florida every year

..and yet, the number of registered democrats stays mostly the same year after year...if they are leaving in "droves".....they are being replaced in "droves"

Actually, Florida's population is increasing faster than that. It's almost 2% per year or approximately 420,000 people.

"Florida's population increased by 1.9% to 22,244,823 between 2021 and 2022."

https://www.census.gov/library/stori...ing-state.html


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[gypsychic]

Originally Posted by Chas863

Perhaps that's what the TRUE cost is for providing insurance for your property. Perhaps your property is close to the coast and subject to greater danger of hurricane damage.

My property is located well inland and worth perhaps $450K and I'm paying $3,100 per year for full coverage with extra high liability coverage. If your insurance premium goes up "by $2500 every single damn year" then perhaps it's because of the choices you make regarding location and features.

And, if insurance in Florida is such a rip-off, then why are several large insurance companies leaving the state? If they're making such a killing by "fleecing" the policyholders, then why wouldn't they stay and rake in all those profits?

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Our property is well inland (Lakeland) and even though 1975 construction, full coverage is less than $2,000 per year. So not everyone is paying through the nose. I have to agree that if someone's coverage goes up by $2,500 every single damn year) there is something really off. I don't know ANYONE paying that kind of coverage unless it is a multimillion dollar mansion.

[Igor Blevin]

Originally Posted by Chas863

But clearly, the numbers show that there are a lot more people moving IN than moving OUT. AND, when we consider the large number of elderly who die each year, then the influx must be great just to replace those people. In short, a LOT more people are voluntarily moving INTO Florida than are voluntarily moving OUT of Florida. And I don't expect this trend to change in the near future as long as DeSantis, or someone like him, is governor.


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I never said people were not moving in. Florida is a medium cost state. If you are an upper class retiree, you can afford a home and the cost of living. How many lower income people are flocking to Florida?

I simply meant that a lot of long time Floridians are suddenly being priced out of living in Florida post-Covid between inflation generally and all of the Florida-specific problems.

[Igor Blevin]

Originally Posted by gypsychic

Our property is well inland (Lakeland) and even though 1975 construction, full coverage is less than $2,000 per year. So not everyone is paying through the nose. I have to agree that if someone's coverage goes up by $2,500 every single damn year) there is something really off. I don't know ANYONE paying that kind of coverage unless it is a multimillion dollar mansion.

Is the roofing crisis just coastal or everywhere. Did you re-roof your house within the last 20 years?