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Old 01-25-2018, 02:05 PM
 
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Are they hourly? Do they clock in early to go home earlier? Or do they sit around for 1-2 hours waiting for their shifts to begin?

The latter would seem peculiar.
Something about them being morning people..

I’m not sure of the other questions
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Old 01-25-2018, 02:30 PM
 
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Something about them being morning people..

I’m not sure of the other questions
Based on your response, it sounds like some of them clock in earlier and likely go home earlier. If so, I at least give them credit for having flexible schedules.
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Old 01-25-2018, 02:31 PM
 
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Based on your response, it sounds like some of them clock in earlier and likely go home earlier. If so, I at least give them credit for having flexible schedules.
No she said they all work until five
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Old 01-25-2018, 02:33 PM
 
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No she said they all work until five
If they're paid hourly, then maybe they do it for the extra $$$. Otherwise, that just sounds dumb.
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Old 01-25-2018, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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But I have some concerns. I'm used to working for a flexible boss and laid back office culture. I have to move on because I need full time. My concerns with this new company are that they are "old school." The manager brought up today that they don't allow cell phones on the desk. Really? I'm not one of those people that uses my phone all day during work. No going on the internet. And she brought up how important attendance is - I take that to mean they aren't very flexible. I wouldn't expect to take time off on a regular basis. For medical reasons I go to the Dr. twice a month. Which means I would be late two mornings a month.
What do they mean by "attendance"?

If I have an appointment with someone... a customer, a partner, a coworker, a trainer, whatever... I need to be where I'm supposed to be, ready to go. That's "attendance" to me.

But, frequently, what they mean is, "We want you at your desk precisely at 8. Why? Not for any articulable reason, but because we're full of fear that we might lose a nickle." I refuse to work for anyone who watches the clock for the sake of watching the clock. If my work gets done, and an outside observer cannot describe the difference between it being done at 6AM, 8AM, or 10AM, then I'm not going to worry about what time I sit down or get up from my desk.
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Old 01-25-2018, 03:48 PM
 
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What do they mean by "attendance"?

If I have an appointment with someone... a customer, a partner, a coworker, a trainer, whatever... I need to be where I'm supposed to be, ready to go. That's "attendance" to me.

But, frequently, what they mean is, "We want you at your desk precisely at 8. Why? Not for any articulable reason, but because we're full of fear that we might lose a nickle." I refuse to work for anyone who watches the clock for the sake of watching the clock. If my work gets done, and an outside observer cannot describe the difference between it being done at 6AM, 8AM, or 10AM, then I'm not going to worry about what time I sit down or get up from my desk.
I almost took it to mean that they want the company to be my life. 🤔
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Old 01-25-2018, 05:03 PM
 
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For me I'd have to think about my personal situation before I took it. If I had a lot of other interviews set up with other companies and finances weren't a major issue- I'd wait. But if I really needed the money I'd bite the bullet and take it. If nothing else, to have a full-time job paying the bills until something better shakes out.
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Old 01-25-2018, 05:33 PM
 
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I might find it weird (I am 40...not too much older than you, so I get where you are coming from) but take the job and see where it leads.

I have been told before that being late was a hot button for a company, only to find out, they had "watchers" that monitored your arrival and departure -AND you could not stay more than 15 min past closing time! And they also made us do a screen shot to show when we arrived and email that to our boss. Did they mention this in their 2 interviews with me? Of course not! They just said, "being late is a hot button".

They also said we had access to breaks during the day. What they didn't say was these breaks were at specific times and we were required to take them. If you didn't take them, a supervisor would come visit you. I found out from HR these breaks were optional and once I said that, they left me alone.

I have also had a company tell me they cared about attendance, being late, etc and repeatedly allowed people to be late to meetings and their shift. They also didn't care if people were on their phone in front of a customer.

So, the truth is, you don't know until you are there.

They sound conservative, but this might be their standard story they tell everyone. Or it might be their way of business.

See what Glass Door says...
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Old 01-25-2018, 06:40 PM
 
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You haven’t seen rigid until you’ve worked where I have. Everyone was given x number of paid vacation days based upon their service time. That plus up to 17 additional paid holidays or shutdown days meant some could have up to 7 weeks of paid time off. You were expected to be at work every day on time unless you scheduled it off in advance. For emergency situations each associate was given 5 days a year to “call in”,and these would be subtracted from your vacation days. Not only did they expect you to come to work every day and be on time, they paid hourly associates a monthly attendance bonus for doing so that was over $250.00. Just for showing up. On time. Every day.

Why you may ask? Because that’s how important it is to the companies profitability that you come to work every day. They really should teach these basic principles in school. If they did, maybe more people would understand how absenteeism negatively impacts the bottom line. Which negatively effects raises, bonuses,and other perks. Business 101, ya know?

So why are all these extravagances “rigid”? Because even with all of this generosity, associates would complain about the companies attendance policy as being too rigid.

Hey, it’s all about more,isn’t it?
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Old 01-25-2018, 07:17 PM
 
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You haven’t seen rigid until you’ve worked where I have. Everyone was given x number of paid vacation days based upon their service time. That plus up to 17 additional paid holidays or shutdown days meant some could have up to 7 weeks of paid time off. You were expected to be at work every day on time unless you scheduled it off in advance. For emergency situations each associate was given 5 days a year to “call in”,and these would be subtracted from your vacation days. Not only did they expect you to come to work every day and be on time, they paid hourly associates a monthly attendance bonus for doing so that was over $250.00. Just for showing up. On time. Every day.

Why you may ask? Because that’s how important it is to the companies profitability that you come to work every day. They really should teach these basic principles in school. If they did, maybe more people would understand how absenteeism negatively impacts the bottom line. Which negatively effects raises, bonuses,and other perks. Business 101, ya know?

So why are all these extravagances “rigid”? Because even with all of this generosity, associates would complain about the companies attendance policy as being too rigid.

Hey, it’s all about more,isn’t it?
I think you missed my point.
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