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Old 04-26-2012, 05:38 PM
 
Location: On the Ohio River in Western, KY
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John Ramsey just did some interview and said he regrets entering her in the pageants, that JonBenet was a tomboy and he sees the today's pageants as really messed up. I think he's snug because he got away with something...We can't accuse him but it's really obvious the parents of that little girl knew or did something. If she was such a happy go lucky little kid, why did she wet her bed at age 6? That's been one thing that bothers me...Stress, abuse, etc,...would cause bedwetting.
Stree isn't the only cause. Diabetes can play a factor, as well as urinary growth and just plain biology. Different kids grow and mature at different rates. I know a girl I went to school with that didn't officially stop wetting the bed till she was almost 13. Nothing wrong with her, she just didn't. Who knows why.

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If something like this happened to me I would get some prescriptioned meds and a lawyer to protect me, knowing how often innocent people are convicted in this, the 'best justice system in the world'. I would also be aware of latent class hatred, so a lawyer would be essential.
Exactly! If something happened to one of my babies, you better be drugging my ass up, and getting me an attorney on stand by. For a just in case moment ya know?

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I agree. I would think that writing the book would help a parent get through the loss of his or her child. Writing a book appeared to have helped John Walsh deal with his son Adam's murder. It has little to do with narcissism.
Exactly!

 
Old 04-28-2012, 07:43 AM
 
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Stree isn't the only cause. Diabetes can play a factor, as well as urinary growth and just plain biology. Different kids grow and mature at different rates. I know a girl I went to school with that didn't officially stop wetting the bed till she was almost 13. Nothing wrong with her, she just didn't. Who knows why.



Exactly! If something happened to one of my babies, you better be drugging my ass up, and getting me an attorney on stand by. For a just in case moment ya know?



Exactly!
I don't believe she was diabetic though. That's an easy diagnosis and it doesn't go unnoticed in a child. She would have gone into diabetic ketosis if untreated. And, bedwetting is one of the biggie classic signs of child/sexual abuse.
 
Old 04-28-2012, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Hmmm....should we just assume the parents of children who wet the bed are guilty of child/sexual abuse?

Sure would be a LOT of innocent parents going on trial if we did.
 
Old 04-28-2012, 06:24 PM
 
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One theory in Jeffery Macdonald...he killed his wife and two daughters...was that he was such a control freak perfectionist, that he just lost it when his young daughter wet her bed. "Fatal Vision". And after he went crazy, he had to kill his youngest daughter to fulfilled the "story" of crazed hippies killing his family.

If you look at it...there are similarities in this case...

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Old 04-28-2012, 09:43 PM
 
Location: home...finally, home .
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I think that was Jeffrey MacDonald. I had never heard that about him, but I always thought he was guilty. One of the reasons I am not crazy about Mark Harmon is that he played Mac Donald in a TV movie many years ago & he was so perfect in the part , so apt that he seemed not to be acting.
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Old 04-29-2012, 06:41 AM
 
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Thanks Nancy. Yes. Jeff MacDonald.

This story, of Jon Benet would make an interesting movie.
 
Old 04-29-2012, 12:32 PM
 
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Hmmm....should we just assume the parents of children who wet the bed are guilty of child/sexual abuse?

Sure would be a LOT of innocent parents going on trial if we did.
I never said to automatically assume bedwetting=child sexual abuse. It is one big symptom that does occur with kids who've been sexually abused.

There was an indication that she had been sexually abused when they examined her after death.

If you put the 2 together, you get another indicator of abuse. It' s more about putting pieces together than relying on 1 thing.
 
Old 04-29-2012, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Australia
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The child WAS abused.

She was permed, poked, prodded, paraded, and basically treated like a giant doll for her mother to play dress ups with.

This IS abuse. I pray for the day that CPS wake the hell up and work to ban all child "beauty" pageants.
 
Old 04-29-2012, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Earth Wanderer, longing for the stars.
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The child WAS abused.

She was permed, poked, prodded, paraded, and basically treated like a giant doll for her mother to play dress ups with.

This IS abuse. I pray for the day that CPS wake the hell up and work to ban all child "beauty" pageants.
Although I don't think there was enough evidence to blame the family and I feel very guilty if I point fingers at them if they are innocent and have suffered horribly, as most parents would at something like this, I agree with you wholeheartedly about the pageant thing.

I get very uneasy seeing little kids parading around and made up as though they were adults. It seems like a very unnatural world. With all the pedophiles lurking, looking for little children, who would want to do things to attract them?
 
Old 04-29-2012, 03:31 PM
 
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This story, of Jon Benet would make an interesting movie

I am pretty sure that it has been a movie, probably on The Lifetime Channel.
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