San Diego is not a good place to live anymore (foreclosure, affordable house)

[sdlife619]

I also think that San Diego is very segregated. Some area's race wise like East County lacking many minorities, basically anything north of the 8 is all White or Asians no Blacks or Hispanic until you hit O Side, but the majority is a class related problem which separates us more than anything.

This city and county is hugely seperated from the wealthy, well to do, and the flat out broke where many of these people are stuck in poor neighborhoods forever, and find it almost impossible to move on up. This creates a lack of intergration which San Diego needs more of. Everytime I travel to different parts of SD, it's mostly all White middle class neighborhoods with no middle class Hispanics or Blacks in between.

Now when I lived in Charlotte NC, this wasn't the case at all. Every neigborhood I check out, had blacks, whites, asians, hispanics, indians, pakistani people all living in the same neighborhood. There was no majority, and each race could feel at ease knowing that they weren't being singled out. The biggest suprise to me was that blacks in Charlotte had a huge middle class. Many of them living in large nice homes. It was like each race had a middle class and wasn't all dirt poor and looked down upon, like they are out here. I just wish more minorities were able to afford San Diego and looked at differently, but sadly there is no in between. You either rent for the rest of your life, or move away to buy a home, and that's not right.

I mean they're hardly any area's where the average person can live. East County is usually cheaper to rent or buy, but some parts are expensive and hard to afford. Even South Bay is getting more expensive.

In other cities at least you can live in a nice neighorhood with a nice home for affortable price. Not in San Diego. Almost all of SD is expensive, from Mira Mesa to Clairmont, to La Mesa and even parts City Heights are insanley expensive. Even for a ghetto. It's all the condo conversion that happened a few years ago that made everything so expensive.

This city need massive rent control, or else once the housing market turns around, we'll be in the same exact place we were a couple of years ago. Little crappy 3 bedroom homes for $500,000, with even higher rents. I know many people, even friends that still live at home with moms, because they simply can't afford the rents out here. Even if not at home, many families have to live together just to pay the rent. Then you have an over crowded apartment or house, which equals unhappy people.

Even people with good paying jobs struggle to live in SD. We don't have a whole lot of GREAT paying ones either unless your going into the Bio Tech field or some other Techy field, but other than that SD is very limited in high paying jobs. The lack of major corporations being located here, hurts. So whenever that new shopping center opens up, or that brand spanking new Subway shop opens, the people working there are making minimum wage. Hooray! for new jobs! But wait a sec? They're all mostly low paying service sector work that won't allow these people to afford to live in SD. What to do? Nothing, oh well. I guess it's better to get your education, and leave SD where they're more higher paying jobs avaliable that pay higher than what most SD companies pay. I think many businesses and companies up in the LA area pay higher than they do down here.

I wonder why?

[Oerdin]

It's segregated but not by race. Like the rest of SoCal San Diego is segregated by social class/income. This is not like Europe where the rich and the poor live close together and instead we have whole districts which are strictly one social class.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by sdlife619

This city need massive rent control?

Right, b/c rent control works so well in cities like San Francisco, Los Angeles, Santa Monica, New York etc.. Rent control screws over anyone new looking to move to SD or enter the rental market b/c it jacks up rents for new renters and keeps them artificially low for old timers. Rent control does NOT work at keeping rents affordable for everyone at all, I'm glad SD doesn't have it.

[loveautumn]

I just saw a survey today that says people in Utah are the happiest...so maybe everybody should just move there (course I think alot of Californians are already doing that)!

[kcda]

Originally Posted by sdlife619

Well in East County mostly El Cajon, Santee, especially Lakeside parts of La Mesa, Lemon Grove,
People out here drive trucks just to drive them, they don't use it for work from what I see. I can understand if your construction worker or contractor.

I don't know, but I think the majority of people that drive Fords are conservatives because it's an American Pride issue, and the liberals are the ones into imports, and euro cars. Maybe it's a San Diego thing, who knows. But when I see somebody drive a Ford Windstar I'm like "Why, The Honda Odessy is a better performer, has better quality, and is more reliable".

Well, I don't go to east county that often so maybe that's why I don't have that perception. I agree with you about the Odyssey and most other Japanese cars. I always scratch my head when I see someone pay the same price for an American van that doesn't compare performance or quality wise. I guess other feel like my relatives from Seattle...they insist on "buying American" rather than getting the best car for their money.

[kcda]

[quote=sdlife619;7853457]This city and county is hugely seperated from the wealthy, well to do, and the flat out broke where many of these people are stuck in poor neighborhoods forever, and find it almost impossible to move on up. This creates a lack of intergration which San Diego needs more of. Everytime I travel to different parts of SD, it's mostly all White middle class neighborhoods with no middle class Hispanics or Blacks in between.

Now when I lived in Charlotte NC, this wasn't the case at all. Every neigborhood I check out, had blacks, whites, asians, hispanics, indians, pakistani people all living in the same neighborhood. There was no majority, and each race could feel at ease knowing that they weren't being singled out. The biggest suprise to me was that blacks in Charlotte had a huge middle class. Many of them living in large nice homes. It was like each race had a middle class and wasn't all dirt poor and looked down upon, like they are out here. I just wish more minorities were able to afford San Diego and looked at differently, but sadly there is no in between. You either rent for the rest of your life, or move away to buy a home, and that's not right.

I mean they're hardly any area's where the average person can live. East County is usually cheaper to rent or buy, but some parts are expensive and hard to afford. Even South Bay is getting more expensive.

In other cities at least you can live in a nice neighorhood with a nice home for affortable price. Not in San Diego. Almost all of SD is expensive
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I think eastern Chula Vista has a large middle to upper middle class of all races. It's also not as expensive as other parts, esp along the coast.

[FunkyMonk]

Originally Posted by sdlife619

Well in East County mostly El Cajon, Santee, especially Lakeside parts of La Mesa, Lemon Grove, and by the beaches of San Diego a lot of people drive trucks from what I notice for no reason, all mostly lifted and Bro'ed out. Some just look ridiculous, and I don't understand why the cops haven't pulled them all over for height violations, you can literally walk underneath some of these things. I mean why drive a big ass Dodge 3500 HD Max diesel truck to the store? Or a Ford 350 Extended Cab (WITH A FAT NASCAR STICKER ON THE BACK OF TRUCK) to a doctors appointment? That is so white trash to me. Those folks are the small minded San Diegans that come here from ways away and bring upon there ultra conservative views and beliefs to the rest of SD. From the looks of some of these rednecks, it's almost Alabama status when it comes to there conservative values. I believe they would fit right in the South.

People out here drive trucks just to drive them, they don't use it for work from what I see. I can understand if your construction worker or contractor.

I know we have many people driving imports, but I still see many more people driving Fords, be it a truck, a little CUV like an Escape, Ford Escort, Ford Taurus, Ford Edge, everything is a Ford.

I don't know, but I think the majority of people that drive Fords are conservatives because it's an American Pride issue, and the liberals are the ones into imports, and euro cars. Maybe it's a San Diego thing, who knows. But when I see somebody drive a Ford Windstar I'm like "Why, The Honda Odessy is a better performer, has better quality, and is more reliable".

You will see this same thing in lots and lots of American towns. People driving huge trucks just to look cool. Especially guys, thinking it makes them look tough and macho. Lots of people choose their vehicle purely on the image they want to have, not on gas mileage or reliability or anything else.

This is the good ol' USA partner, what else would you expect? This is the land of "bigger is better" didn't you know?

[trailtramp]

Over the past 20 years SoCal has become a third world country, SD included. Outside the wealthy pockets it is just a huge region of great weather, filled with smog, dirty beaches, packed freeways, attitude, silicone, and a destitute population of immigrants that are trashing up the place. Left last year and the door couldn't close fast enough to hit my ass on the way out!

[Encinitan]

Originally Posted by trailtramp

Over the past 20 years SoCal has become a third world country, SD included. Outside the wealthy pockets it is just a huge region of great weather, filled with smog, dirty beaches, packed freeways, attitude, silicone, and a destitute population of immigrants that are trashing up the place. Left last year and the door couldn't close fast enough to hit my ass on the way out!

[GSXRScott]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

No kidding, I voted for Obama too but we can hardly blame a global recession on one man when the playing cards for what is happening now were dealt as early as the late eighties.

Agreed. We were living too large for too long. It was perfectly acceptable for an individual to have 15 to 20 thousand dollars worth of credit card debt. No more!!!!!!