Villages of Westcreek (Howe: handicap, city limits, democrat)

[wellguy]

Originally Posted by wc2005

Wellguy - If there was a notice written by the standards monitor the HO has 10 days to remedy the problem. After that, they get a second notice and another 10 days. And then, probably another 10 days before getting a formal letter. They'll likely get at least 30 days before being sent to the attorney.

Yeah that's the sad thing about a mess like this. It would thind it would have to cleaned up right away. If I were the family selling the home on the other side of the street I'd be a little upset.

Maybe someone on the BOD or HOA Staff will read this and come to some sort of quick resolution. *It's in The Hollow . I'll let you all know when its' gone. Would they like to see this all week long? I would not think so.

There would be a quick remedy and I am not being smart. Let the HOA Maintenace Staff come by in our pickup and take it to a limb /branch pile to be chipped up.

[jules07]

Originally Posted by wc2005

Yes, they want to stay on the board. The other major difference is that homeowners have no choice...you MUST be part of the HOA and you MUST pay annual assessments. The BOD can raise the assessments up to 10% annually...regardless of homeowner oppinion. The PTA is optional for individual families.

The HOA creates and edits rules that effect homeowner abilities to do, or not do several things (not saying that is all bad but it does effect people's "rights"/desires around their own homes). The PTA really can't force things on parents who simply choose not to participate.

This particular HOA is operating on an annual budget of over $1 million.

Absolutely true. I do understand the differences between a PTA and an HOA. About a "zillion" years ago I was an assistant property manager with a portfolio of 7 HOA's in Southern California, 2 of which were much larger and with larger operating budgets than Westcreek. We had several HOA's in which the members wanted this or that done, but were never satisfied. And the board members would have LOVED to hand it over to the other homeowners but none of them wanted the responsibility. That was the point I was trying to understand ~ if the board members WANTED to stay on, and you answered it for me. Thank you.

That's also why I asked what the "particular" issues where, but can see that it's way too complicated to address here. Good thing we haven't decided on WC for sure! North SA Hills is looking more attractive again.

[gwrober]

Originally Posted by jules07

Absolutely true. I do understand the differences between a PTA and an HOA. About a "zillion" years ago I was an assistant property manager with a portfolio of 7 HOA's in Southern California, 2 of which were much larger and with larger operating budgets than Westcreek. We had several HOA's in which the members wanted this or that done, but were never satisfied. And the board members would have LOVED to hand it over to the other homeowners but none of them wanted the responsibility. That was the point I was trying to understand ~ if the board members WANTED to stay on, and you answered it for me. Thank you.

That's also why I asked what the "particular" issues where, but can see that it's way too complicated to address here. Good thing we haven't decided on WC for sure! North SA Hills is looking more attractive again.

I was just about to post that you guys should understand that Jules knows her stuff - doesn't need a definition of PTA or HOA, but you beat me to it!

I think WC would be lucky to have you guys! And, maybe you could get on the board and straighten out some issues!

[rd2007]

but does she know what a PITA is?

[jules07]

Originally Posted by rd2007

but does she know what a PITA is?

Yes! YOU!!!!!




j/k

[BamaSailor]

Originally Posted by jules07

Absolutely true. I do understand the differences between a PTA and an HOA. About a "zillion" years ago I was an assistant property manager with a portfolio of 7 HOA's in Southern California, 2 of which were much larger and with larger operating budgets than Westcreek. We had several HOA's in which the members wanted this or that done, but were never satisfied. And the board members would have LOVED to hand it over to the other homeowners but none of them wanted the responsibility. That was the point I was trying to understand ~ if the board members WANTED to stay on, and you answered it for me. Thank you.

That's also why I asked what the "particular" issues where, but can see that it's way too complicated to address here. Good thing we haven't decided on WC for sure! North SA Hills is looking more attractive again.

By all means, do not rule out WC just from the things on CD. This is just a few people who are working in this manner to try to find solutions to a few problems. Overall, the neighborhood is great. Nowhere is perfect. Come be our neighbor!

[wellguy]

Originally Posted by wellguy

Yeah that's the sad thing about a mess like this. It would thind it would have to cleaned up right away. If I were the family selling the home on the other side of the street I'd be a little upset.

Maybe someone on the BOD or HOA Staff will read this and come to some sort of quick resolution. *It's in The Hollow . I'll let you all know when its' gone. Would they like to see this all week long? I would not think so.

There would be a quick remedy and I am not being smart. Let the HOA Maintenace Staff come by in our pickup and take it to a limb /branch pile to be chipped up.

Good Evening,

Well I will admit this morning when I left for work I saw that all the limbs /branches were gone. It obviously happened sometime yesterday after I left for work.

Anyway Crow doesn't taste so Bad, if you admit you are wrong.

[firstclassflyer]

Originally Posted by wellguy

Good Evening,

Well I will admit this morning when I left for work I saw that all the limbs /branches were gone. It obviously happened sometime yesterday after I left for work.

Anyway Crow doesn't taste so Bad, if you admit you are wrong.

Some salt for your crow, my friend?

[THE COMMON MAN]

Give me a break, when they hire an attorney to sit in on a BOD meeting (which nobody recalls other Boards doing) indicates that they have something to hide. When they hire a law enforcement officer to be present at the BOD meetings (which nobody recalls other Boards doing) indicates that they have something to fear.

I was surprised that the President of the Board, did away with the ongoing practice of allowing homeowners to relinquish their 3 minute speaking time to the one of the other homeowners and then later reverse the rule to allow a "former Board Member" all the time he needed to speak. This confirmed the suspicions of the homeowners in attendance that they were intent on squashing the voices of those who have views that differ from theirs. This is not the action of a democratic society.


I think the homeowners who the Board likes to refer to as "disgruntled" have every right to be upset. I for one did not find them as 'disgruntled'. In fact, after talking with a number of folks at the meeting they seemed genuinely concerned about making Westcreek the ideal community to live in. My hat off to all those who had the courage to stand up and let their voices be heard.

I overheard one BOD member complain that homeowners have never taken an interest in their community and now that they (from what I understand) have record numbers showing up at their monthly meetings they are determined to silence their voices. It will be interesting what tactics they will resort to at the next meeting. I for one plan on being at the next and future meetings and will encourage my neighbors to join me. This meeting was definitely an eye opener for me.

[Paka]

Originally Posted by rd2007

but does she know what a PITA is?

Of course she does...she is a vegitarian...she eats pita bread sandwiches all the time....(could NOT resist!)

I second Jules would get them straightened up!!!