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Old 03-10-2017, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Avignon, France
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I am sorry this happend to you. No matter how careful any one is there are always animals out there that can sneak up on anyone female or male and cause harm. Was this person every caught?
Yes he was caught. Apparently he had a look out. Both were wanted felons. It was actually the lookout who turned him in, but not out of any concern for me. He said, " When I saw her slump to the ground I thought he'd killed her and I didn't want any part of a murder charge". My attacker took a plea bargain and received
A sentence of 10-25. The lookout who would have gotten imunity for his testimony lost that deal when the other took the plea and he ended getting sentenced to 5-7 years.
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Old 03-10-2017, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Yes he was caught. Apparently he had a look out. Both were wanted felons. It was actually the lookout who turned him in, but not out of any concern for me. He said, " When I saw her slump to the ground I thought he'd killed her and I didn't want any part of a murder charge". My attacker took a plea bargain and received
A sentence of 10-25. The lookout who would have gotten imunity for his testimony lost that deal when the other took the plea and he ended getting sentenced to 5-7 years.
Wow. Scary. I am glad they were caught and sentenced.
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Old 03-10-2017, 04:00 PM
 
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I would not walk anywhere alone at night except in my own neighborhood and I conceal carry and go to the range often. Always very aware of my surroundings and am not frightened.
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Old 03-10-2017, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Sounds like famous last words to me. I was grabbed in a parking structure at a major Las Vegas, hotel/ casino.
There were people milling around and cars looking to park. He just walked up and sucker punched me, knocking me to the ground. After kicking and punching me into submission, he proceeded to drag me ( by the hair) to a secluded spot where he raped and beat me some more. I was told to keep quiet or he'd do worse.
He'd ( I'd find out later) fractured my eye socket, fractured 3 of my ribs, broke two of my fingers, gave me two black eyes, bit me so hard on the shoulder that I have a permanent bite scar. I got eight stitches in my mouth, a concussion, gobs of my hair yanked out and a partially collapsed wind pipe. ( he tried to strangle me when he was finished.) From the time I first saw him until he punched me was maybe 5 seconds and the whole assault took maybe 15 minutes. ( although it seemed like lifetime).
I did everything I was supposed to. Looked around before getting out of my car, tried to park close to an entrance, parked close to a well lit area. Got out, key in hand..... but it happened so quickly I never had a chance. Unless you get out of the car with your CC or pepper spray in hand... your chances of getting to use them in close quarters are pretty slim. He looked like " the guy next door" and I was disarmed by his smile.
That's when he caught me with a right hook to the jaw.
I am not afraid to be out by myself at night.... I am just way more careful or take my dog it at all possible.
Don't give yourself a false sense of security because you have a weapon or because there are people around. It can happen anywhere, any time and it can happen in a heartbeat. Not looking for sympathy here... just trying to give a little heads up from my experience.
Wow, I'm sorry that happened to you... they never caught the guy?
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Old 03-10-2017, 06:05 PM
 
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Heck I'm a guy and sometimes I am afraid to walk at night in certain areas. Maybe woman are just being smart.
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Old 03-10-2017, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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It is interesting hearing different people's stories. I think in general I actually do live in a pretty safe city and further more a pretty safe area. That being said anything can happen anywhere. My area is much less traffic then downtown. Downtown I pay less attention as there are lot and lots of people and camera around. In my area it is much more residential so if someone is walking even too near to me I will actually cross the street if walking by myself at night beacuse a patch of the area I walk by to get home is big park on one side and the other side of the street an empty feild and cementary. After that street it is house after house until I get home. I think a lot of women like myself do not really think about how many extra safety precautions we take until we really start to think about it. It sort of goes without saying I guess.

Ex I would never except a ride from anyone even in bad weather. There was really bad weather the other day and the sidewalks and roads were really slippery. This man pulled over to offer me a ride and of course I said no thank you. I am actually very surprised that he would even think in a million years I would be willing to get in to a car with him. People just don't do that kind of stuff in a major city.

Also there are social expectations in general. For example in my part of the city if walking alone especailly at night if a man approaches you to talk it is a reason to be alarmed. They should know better then to approach a woman walking alone at night. If it was downtown where there are more people and businesses open it is not as big of a deal. But following anyone ever is really bad behaviour as if the woman was willing to talk to your she would have stopped walking to respond. That is why I keep my head phones on. So I can pretend I did not hear and if the person continues to try to talk to me I know something is up with them and to be concerned.
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Old 03-10-2017, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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I really think that most women should take self-defense lessons and carry some type of weapon. It doesn't have to be a gun. You can get by with a switch blade or electric taser if legal.

I actually believe that surburbs are more dangerous than metro areas. Because in the burbs there are more opportunities for an attacker to committ a crime without any witnesses around.

I normally find walking behind or around women is that they do not have enough awareness of the environment. I could've easily sneak silently behind and get them in a choke hold.

In a street fight a choke hold could mean life and death unless you are strong and powerful you can overpower your attacker.

By being aware of who is around you or watching you is a good start and avoid being grabbed from behind because it takes just a few seconds for a guy who weighs the same as you to get you in a choke hold or put a knife or gun behind you.

If you could anticipate the guy and he tries to pull it off, the minute they lose the element of the surprise they are less likely to committ the crime knowing that you have identified him unless you are in some desolate place.
We'll be watching for you.
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Old 03-10-2017, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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Because I've been around a lot of drug addicted women that prostitute, and hustle on the street. They have none of this fear you all speak of an attribute as innate to women. These women are so scandalous and fearless in the worst neighborhoods in America, in dark, lonely blocks, frankly I have no idea how they do it. I feel I make no exaggeration when I say they have the courage of a dozen Navy SEALs.

And I'm pretty sure I have more fear than these women when walking through x neighborhood. Ergo, it must be a mind thing.

Okay, getting into cars with strange men. Eh, flagging them down or standing at night on a ghetto corner switching your hips trying to pull men driving cars, going into the backyard of abandoned houses, and crazier yet running off with some men's money.

None of this speaks of a woman "in fear" walking at night in a grocery store parking lot.

Even my own white mother is less paranoid than either myself or my black father who is a retired Federal agent. I can't believe she's pulled into a certain ghetto gas station at night and alone to pump gas. A spot that would worry me and I can defend myself hundred times better than her. A spot my father would avoid and he'll snap and fight hoodlums.

This line about men not having fear is about as much reality as men don't cry and women do. They are based on myths. I have more fear of shop lifting or stealing money from out a guy's coat pocket than many women do. And I mean many, not a few.

There are some mentally tough women on the streets. Some dangerous ones too that will lie and set you up. Scared, timid people they are not. And they chew nice guys up and spit them out.

So, if you are a woman in a pretty safe part of town, it is true bad things can happen anywhere. But you're probably overcome by fear mainly out of your own imaginations. Because these "ratchet" women on ghetto blocks aren't afraid as they flag down strange men in cars.

Oh bull****. Those women are scared too. They just simply are too driven by a addiction or they are more afraid of getting beat by their pimp than by their trick. And I guarantee you they get murdered and beat up by men all the time. If theire not scared they are just plain stupid. Anyone who tells you they are fearless is a damn idiot
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Old 03-10-2017, 10:16 PM
 
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A lot of women I know make comments to be about wow are you not scared to go there, come home or do that alone. The actually don't go certain places because they are scared to go home alone or some somewhere alone because there is a possibility of some bad mad going to try and harm them. Not very likely in my city.... yet these women continue to live like children always wanting someone to take them by the hand and go somewhere. It seems totally crippling. My independence is so important to my quality of like that anyone who dears mess with that better be willing to get broken in to pieces.

No one has a right to harm or harass a person regardless of the time of day, location, if they are by themselves or what they are wearing.

Just interested, are you willing to risk getting broken into little pieces?....Not for nothing, females hardly ever come out ahead in a violent altercation....hubris like that can wind up making you a statistic. And you're right....no one has a "right" to do any of what you say....but the guys who would do it don't care or have any respect for those "rights" which is why many women get concerned about their safety and being harmed.
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Old 03-10-2017, 10:54 PM
 
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Yup. As another poster noted, being alone after dark in an empty parking lot and similar situations makes my skin crawl. At 5'2" and being a little bit of nothing all of my life, I guarantee that there is nothing intimidating about me.

So all you 6' guys out there who think women are paranoid for being afraid of having to sprint to our cars in the dark, poof to you. You're the ones we have to be wary of to start with.

Obviously all men aren't going to attack a lone female. But when they do, we historically have heard a lot about how we were asking for it, or we weren't "careful enough", whatever that's supposed to mean, even from the guys who insist they would never attack a woman. That has a definite effect on how safe we feel, or don't feel, alone at night.
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