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Old 03-13-2017, 11:09 AM
 
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This thread worries me. It is not fair that women should have to feel this way. I maintain that no one has the right ot lay their hands on me and if they do I do everything in my power to ensure they won't be able to hurt anyone else again.

I honestly think the punishment for sexual offensives should be physical ( not just chemial) castration. I am certain it would make people think a bit harder people trying to sexual abuse someone.

It may not be fair but it is reality. No man has any right to touch a woman against her will but that doesn't mean some won't do just that and even if she fights with all of her might there is no guarantee that she will be able to get away unscathed. The odds are against her if the man is bigger and stronger then she is and even more so if he has a weapon.

I don't think that the men who commit sexual assault think that they will get caught and while I fully agree that the punishment for rape should be much higher then it is now, I don't know that it would deter the kind of man who hides in an alley or bushes or assaults a stranger. They are not clear thinking individuals.
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Old 03-13-2017, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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I'm a guy and my rule for walking at night is that I won't, unless I am armed. I may be 6' 2", but that's no guarantee of safe passage. Especially if it's me against two or more. I'm retired LE and most bad things happen at night.
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Old 03-13-2017, 03:06 PM
 
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I'm a guy and my rule for walking at night is that I won't, unless I am armed. I may be 6' 2", but that's no guarantee of safe passage. Especially if it's me against two or more. I'm retired LE and most bad things happen at night.
Agreed. I think there's a misconception that size matters. I'm about 5'10" and around 160 lbs - not small by any means, but I've been mugged in the middle of the day. It's more about opportunity than anything else. No one is immune.
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Old 03-13-2017, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Avignon, France
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I'm a guy and my rule for walking at night is that I won't, unless I am armed. I may be 6' 2", but that's no guarantee of safe passage. Especially if it's me against two or more. I'm retired LE and most bad things happen at night.
Ok so... you're a trained ex LEO. The thing for me about using a weapon like a gun... is threat acessment.
When to pull. When to shoot? I mean if the guy is running towards me waving his arms and threatening me... ok it might be a good time to draw my weapon. Prior to my event there was nothing about the guy that set off any kind of alarms. He looked like the guy next door. He was actually quite attractive as far as looks went. Nothing about his demeanor said danger.... right up until he punched me in the face. ( which was maybe 10 seconds or less of first seeing him.) I thought he was waiting for me to close my car door so he could pass...
In my case I wouldn't have had time to draw a weapon anyway... he was just too close before I even knew he was there, but you just can't go around pulling a weapon or shooting someone because you we're afraid of what he might do right?
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Old 03-13-2017, 04:44 PM
 
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I am a grown 6'4" guy with extensive training in jiu jitsu and muay thai, along with a powerlifting background, no one will ever mistake me for not being stronger than normal for sure, and I get wary walking at night.
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Old 03-13-2017, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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I am a grown 6'4" guy with extensive training in jiu jitsu and muay thai, along with a powerlifting background, no one will ever mistake me for not being stronger than normal for sure, and I get wary walking at night.
Some crazy person could just decided to shot you in the back to the head for no reason. There is no 100% with personal safety. You can just simply be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

It is like getting hit by lighting ... not very likely to happen, but people are still advised to take cover when it is lightening.

You can do everything right and something randomly could go wrong.

I try to be cautious ... but I am not going to live in fear just because something might happen.
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Old 03-13-2017, 07:40 PM
 
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I'm on guard, but I wouldn't say I'm afraid. I only ever walk alone at night if I have no other choice (prime example is walking from the Metro to my car at night after a late flight).

I was told once that criminals look for easy victims. So I own the night. I walk around like it's my element and when I see other people I start assessing how I would attack them (in self defense). I look to see their vulnerabilities. I'm not a fast runner, so I put myself in "fight" not "flight" mode. I also acknowledge other people, which gives an air of confidence.

I've had problems with cat callers and guys who expose themselves. But they are pretty passive and keep their distance. I once had a man try to grope me reaching out with his hand right at my breast and I blocked him and then I punched him in the chest since he was exposed. My dad taught me that. Didn't think about it, I just did it. I didn't punch hard and did it quickly. It stunned him like he didn't know what just happened and I walked away. Probably not the smartest thing to do, but I honestly didn't even think. But that also happened in broad daylight on a busy street.
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Old 03-14-2017, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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I'm a guy and my rule for walking at night is that I won't, unless I am armed. I may be 6' 2", but that's no guarantee of safe passage. Especially if it's me against two or more. I'm retired LE and most bad things happen at night.

I understand your point of view, but, you've seen the worst of the worst. My husband is a retired police officer and he worries about me being out late at night by myself as well. I carry his pepper spray and a flash light that will blind you. Yes, there is risk and I may very well be the victim of one of those unwanted statistics. Or I could run into some of the nicest night crawlers like this man and his step son out playing in the snow after midnight together. Or some nice young men hunting pokemon. Or other people with their dogs. Or that crazy old man who sleeps in a chair on his porch. We've had some nice conversations and some mai tais too. Okay, one friend I made while walking my dog didn't work out, but we had fun for awhile. I was also more afraid of this cop that John was friends with while he was working after I tried to get them back together, but that was a disaster. He's a tad damaged. Unfortunately I still see him from time to time, and I haven't been able to visit the guys on night shift with the dogs since Mr. Crabby Pants decided to be a jerk. I still go to the park at night but I take the back door through the woods and stay at the other end of the police department to let the boys run around. I was there at about 1am this morning. We finally had some snow and it was incredibly beautiful out there. There was even a deer in the park, and the moon was nearly full. You just can't get that amazing quiet and solitude during the day. There's something about living in the shadows that's a great comfort to me. There is a whole subculture of night crawlers out there. Most of us are just nice people who live in the night. I peak at about 1am. It's just the way I'm wired, and I refuse to live in fear because of it. I can't wait for my bike rides after dog walkies as soon as the weather breaks. It beats sitting around with the remote watching TV
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Old 03-14-2017, 12:30 PM
 
Location: God's Country
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If I still lived in Baltimore city, I wouldn't be walking -- day or night -- without a platoon of US Recon Marines for an escort.


And I'm a guy.


Here in a rural valley, don't have that fear, but I'm not into taking walks for the sake of walking.
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Old 03-14-2017, 01:28 PM
 
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While I am sure that some of these women have valid concerns, most likely depending on how safe their area is, I think most are so full of themselves and think that any guy that looks in their direction wants to attack them. I know that if there is a woman in the line of site between me and my kids, I can sense their discomfort as they think I am looking at them when I am really looking right past them. I can tell b cause they always keep looking my way to see if I am looking. Heck, this happens in church. They need to get over themselves. Not every guy who looks in their general direction has interest in them.
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