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What's not meaningless is that today, Zelensky stated that up to one-third of Ukraine's power stations were struck by Russian aerial strikes over the weekend. According to some posters here, the Russian military is weak, pathetic, and hapless. If that assessment is factually correct, then I only wonder what percentage of incapacitated power stations Zelensky would have mentioned if the Russian military were capable, strong, organized, and able to project power deep into Ukrainian territory in the way that posters here said it can't.
Your early posts were all easy short victory, can't retake lost ground etc. so you're probably the last person that should be crowing about how this is going to end up.
I'd mention that the Russian military has had to call up a mobilization, has sacked and arrested tons of military officials but you'd no doubt attribute that to success as well.
The Moskva with advanced (allegedly) defenses just sat there and took it from beginner level non-stealth cruise missiles. WTH?
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P.S. Tell you what if Russia gives up on Ukraine and they re-take everything but the Crimea, would you stop posting here?
Is Russia just allowed to have carte blanche in any country with an ethnic Russian population? Does this also extend to Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia? Or even the ethnic Russian population in Brooklyn? Seems having an ethnic Russian population is a quite liability in those circumstances.
The Moskva with advanced (allegedly) defenses just sat there and took it from beginner level non-stealth cruise missiles. WTH?
Small point of clarification. The Moskva had a older radar system, and even in the 90's we knew that in anything but a flat sea that the Moskva (and other ships back then) would have issues with sorting missiles and aircraft from wave clutter. You can see it in simulation games from the 90s like Harpoon 4 for example.
Russia HAD been negotiating to purchase a upgraded Moskva class that was nearly finished from the country that built the Moskva originally that replaced the radar systems. That was Ukraine who cancelled it after Russia took Crimea. They clearly knew the weaknesses of the Moskva classes radar as well. There has been some claims that a bayractar distracted them, but really they did not need it. They never even saw these until the very last second I suspect.
The Neptune missiles used are a decent anti-surface missile that I would not call beginner level, more like intermediate. Id argue that their artillery coordination software might be worth looking at.
Also the US is going to REALLY get into a INSANE number of drones now. This should be fun.
Th Ukrainians have built an app to report incoming drones:
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“The Android version of the “ePPO†application is already available to download. Now every citizen of Ukraine can join the anti-missile and anti-aircraft defense of our skies,â€
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Once a person sights a suicide drone or a cruise missile, all they have to do is open the application, select the type of air target, point the smartphone in the direction of the target and press the big red button visible on the screen. “The Android version of the “ePPO†application is already available to download." Since the suicide drone engine is noisy, one can hear (sound like) a moped or chainsaw motor if the drone is approaching.
30% of Ukraine's power stations were destroyed by Russian terrorists in a few days. The damages were caused mostly by Iranian drones. Will these acts of terror terrify Ukrainians into submission or will it strengthen their resolve to save their country from Russian savages?
No doubt there were Russian immigrants in Ukraine, working in the mines and factories. If they didn't want to live in Ukraine, they could have always gone back to Russia.
Ukraine never existed on a single map until Germany created it in the Brest-Litovsk Treaty after Russia surrendered to Germany in WWI. Then after the Germans lost WWI to the allies, and after the Communist Revolution, the Soviets took it back. Ukraine only really became a country in 1991, when the Soviet Union collapsed.
The beginnings of Russia/Ukraine/Belarus was the "Rus", which became the Kievan Rus when the capital was moved from Novgorod to Kiev. The Kievan Rus NEVER controlled eastern or Southern Ukraine. It was controlled by the Pechenegs, the Khazars, the Byzantines, and later the Cumans, the Mongols(who became the Golden Horde), then the Crimean Tatars who were an Ottoman vassal.
The Russians defeated the Ottomans and took what was then called "Novorossiya". Which at the time was sparsely populated. The term "Potemkin village" comes from that time. When Catherine the Great of Russia took a tour down the Dnieper River to tour the territories conquered from the Ottomans. The story was that they would assemble beautiful villages for her to tour, then they would take them apart and reassemble them further down the river to give the impression that the country was in better shape than it really was.
Basically, your history of Ukraine is backwards. It was the Ukrainians who came as immigrants to Novorossiya after Russia defeated the Crimean Khanate. Crimea has never been Ukrainian. If anyone is an invader, it is the Ukrainians. The Russians were there before the Ukrainians.
As to the Russian speaking Ukrainians and the ethnically mixed, the overwhelming majority were against the Russian incursion and took their own turns in the rotation of the Ukrainian army fighting against the Russian puppet state agents.
Citation please.
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Zelenskyy himself is a Russian speaking Ukrainian (born and raised in the Russian speaking region), who received most of his political support from the very Russian speaking region you claim is pro-Russian. He won that election and relentlessly pursued the Ukrainian national policy of opposing the Russian incursions.
1) Zelensky was born in Kryvyi Rih. Which is west of the Dnieper, and not a predominantly Russian-speaking area. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Ukraine
2) Zelensky is a Jew from a wealthy family.
3) Zelensky ran for president as the "peace with Russia" candidate. He was supposed to come to a negotiated end to the War in the Donbas. Which is why he was supported overwhelmingly in Eastern Ukraine and opposed in Western Ukraine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_U...ntial_election
After becoming president, he seems to have gotten pressured by the Ukrainian hardliners(something akin to the Ukrainian deep-state) to take a harder stance on Russia. In that way he is somewhat analogous to what happened to Barack Obama after he became president. Where Obama basically ran as a peace candidate, then started multiple new wars and vastly increased drone strikes.
We know that agents provocateurs under the pay of the Russian government stimulated the so-called 'rebellion' and that the so-called 'rebellion' would have completely collapsed without the insertion of Russian paid mercenaries and weapons (including tanks and rockets).
This is the only thing you said that is correct. Without Russia there would be protests but no rebellion. And if there had been a rebellion, it would have been crushed quickly. The same could be said for America. Without France, America would still be British.
There has never been a successful separatist movement, or revolution for that matter, without foreign support. The reason is simple, only the weaker faction would ever want to separate. Foreign interference is the only reason anyone has ever gained independence from anyone else. Even the Western justification for supporting Ukraine is based on the supposition that Ukraine is fighting for independence from Russia.
So yes, there would be no rebellion in Eastern Ukraine without Russian support. But there would have been no rebellion in Western Ukraine/Kiev without American/European support. In fact, without America, Ukraine would still be part of the Soviet Union.
Basically, what you said was true, but it doesn't take us one step closer to what is just.
So let me ask you again, is Crimea Russian or Ukrainian? Why?
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