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Old 10-19-2022, 05:42 PM
 
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Putin restricts movement in and out of regions near Ukraine

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ne-2022-10-19/

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Russian President Vladimir Putin issued a decree on Wednesday restricting movement in and out of eight regions adjoining Ukraine.

The measures apply to the southern regions of Krasnodar, Belgorod, Bryansk, Voronezh, Kursk and Rostov, which are all near Ukraine, and the territories of Crimea and Sevastopol, which Russia seized from Ukraine in 2014.
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Old 10-19-2022, 05:47 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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Oh, THAT's what the "evacuation of civilians" is all about. They have suckered the civilians into leaving so that the army could mingle with them. That way the Ukrainians will have to hold their fire and the Russian army will escape.
Plenty or Russian soldiers will be killed, though. Poor suckers.
"OK, Ivan. You stay here and guard our rear, and I'll escort these civilians out of the way. I'LL BE RIGHT BACK!"
Right after committing a few more war crimes against the civilians. From an article dated Oct 17 (boldface added by me):

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Ukrainian conductor Yuriy Kerpatenko was murdered in his home in Kherson by Russian forces after refusing to participate in a concert performance organized by Russians.

Per the Ukrainian Minister of Culture, the 46-year-old was the conductor of the Mykola Kulish Kherson Music and Drama Theater, the Kherson Regional Philharmonic, and the Gileya Chamber Orchestra. He refused to leave and throughout the early part of the year spoke out openly against the Russian invasion.

The concert, which was set for Oct. 1, 2022, was organized by Russian occupants of Kherson, one of the first cities to fall to Russia at the start of the invasion this year. The Gileya Chamber Orchestra was scheduled to appear in the performance with Kerpatenko set to conduct. But he refused to take part.

“I have seen too much silence from Russian colleagues,” said conductor Dalia Stasevska per The Guardian. “Would this be the time for Russian musicians, especially those living and working abroad, to finally step up and take a stand against the Russian regime’s actions in Ukraine?”
https://operawire.com/russians-kill-...te-in-concert/

So much for that spin we've been hearing from the Putlerites, about how the locals are SO much embracing their Russian "liberators" from the Ukrainian oppression, in the now formerly-occupied territories. Russians being Russian, what can I say?

Truth knowers know what Russia's record is on the educated class, the artists, the role models. Just really shabby, the Russians.
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Old 10-19-2022, 06:54 PM
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Putin restricts movement in and out of regions near Ukraine

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ne-2022-10-19/
Worried about Ukrainian special operations aimed at targeting Russian transportation?
I'm sure the Russian citizens will be delighted with being under martial law and having even fewer rights.
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Old 10-19-2022, 07:34 PM
 
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Interesting video.
The word "war" is freely used, and the rhetorical question, "Why did we think Zelenskyy would run off instead of fighting?" is tossed out there.


At this point there are few informed people who believe Russia can hold on to Kherson.
The history of Kherson is interesting in that, even though it is a key city, the population peaked in 1981 at 361,000. It has gone down steadily and was at 283,000 before the war. About 50% of the population has left already.
Her did run off. To do a photo shoot. Priorities
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Old 10-19-2022, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Todays Update from ISW

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...ent-october-19
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Old 10-19-2022, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Durham NC
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Think of this as a marathon and not a sprint and you will come to understand the futility of the position of the West here.
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Old 10-19-2022, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Durham NC
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The Man.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OogT...el=smoothieX12
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Old 10-19-2022, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Think of this as a marathon and not a sprint and you will come to understand the futility of the position of the West here.
This is a good analysis of what Putin is looking at

PUTIN ON TRACK TO DISAPPOINT MULTIPLE COMPETING FACTIONS IN RUSSIA

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...actions-russia
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Old 10-19-2022, 09:11 PM
 
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Congratulations … now you CNN junkies can cheer on Nazis, Al Qaeda, and the Taliban at the same time! The grand trifecta !

Y’all are so smart.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY6gP3xF3Tg
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Old 10-19-2022, 09:21 PM
 
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Putin uses convicts as cannon fodders to bait Ukrainian defenders. A captured convict asks inmates not to join Putin's war.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXvkHrxOSAM

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