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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 201 39.88%
No 254 50.40%
Unsure 49 9.72%
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Old 01-15-2023, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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ISW Update 1/15/23....Ready...Shoot....Aim

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...anuary-15-2023

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Jan 15, 2023 - Press ISW

The Kremlin is belatedly taking personnel mobilization, reorganization, and industrial actions it realistically should have before launching its invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 invasion and is taking steps to conduct the “special military operation” as a major conventional war. Russian President Vladimir Putin began publicly signaling preparations for a protracted war in early December 2022, pledging that Russia will improve upon the mistakes of its earlier military campaigns and setting conditions for a protracted war in Ukraine. Putin notably remarked on December 7 that the “special military operation” in Ukraine could be a “lengthy process” and made several further public appearances throughout December indirectly outlining his goals to: improve the Russian war effort’s mobilization processes, revitalize Russia’s defense industrial base, centralize the Kremlin’s grip over the Russian information space, and reinstate the Russian Ministry of Defense’s (MoD) authority.
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Old 01-15-2023, 09:04 PM
 
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Now the death toll from the Kremlin missile that shot an apartment building is 30. How many are children? Reports say 30-40 people are still under rubble the the death toll could rise.

Hit the Kremlin where it hurts.
Russian State TV want to celebrate the death of Ukrainian civilians and children with firework. They want the same thing to happen to other cities in Ukraine.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMcMz7qWwLs
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Old 01-16-2023, 07:42 AM
 
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The article says that they would be pulled from the industrial reserves, so I guess what that term means to the German government is the key. Would it be like the aircraft the US has stored in the desert that would take months to bring back to flying status?
So they are offering stuff from the scrapyard that is not currently operationally ready?
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Old 01-16-2023, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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So they are offering stuff from the scrapyard that is not currently operationally ready?
they said they have to be completely rebuilt and they won't be ready until 2024..

but why does Poland have to have a green light from Germany to give Ukraine Poland tanks?..is it because Germany gave them to Poland in the first place?..

but the UK seems to be leading the charge here by stating they will give Ukraine tanks..the first country to do so I guess..maybe that will get the ball rolling..
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Old 01-16-2023, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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So they are offering stuff from the scrapyard that is not currently operationally ready?
Perhaps but a General does not just prepare for today's fight he must maintain reserves for tomorrow. Just as the Russians are pulling T-62s out of storage and putting reactive armor blocks on them Ukraine will also need to backfill current loses for future needs.
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Old 01-16-2023, 11:39 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Here is even more interesting stuff: Soviet Union ceased to exist in 1991
https://www.forces.net/sites/default...%20Defence.jpg

I guess the Russians didn't get the memo either.
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Old 01-16-2023, 11:53 AM
 
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So they are offering stuff from the scrapyard that is not currently operationally ready?
Tanks after certain number of hours of service require rebuilding, i don' t know exact number of hours for Leopard, it varies with design. So, machines they got requre rehabilitatiin to enter service again. Similar thing with airplanes. Historically, Russian tanks have longer periods between rehabilitations.
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Old 01-16-2023, 12:28 PM
 
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Will the war in Ukraine spell the end of Transnistria?

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Russia's war on Ukraine has not being going as President Vladimir Putin intended. He hasn't been able to defeat Ukraine so far, and it seems probable that he won't. Nor has he succeeded in paralyzing and dividing the European Union and NATO — quite the opposite, in fact.

Indeed, contrary to his plans, Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova are now several steps closer to EU integration than they had ever dreamed possible.

There may also be other unintended consequences of the war in Ukraine. One of the most important would be the resolution of the Transnistria conflict in Moldova.

In 1991-92, Russia showed the world for the first time since the collapse of the Soviet Union that it was capable of destabilizing and dividing a former Soviet republic, arming pro-Russia separatists in Moldova, unleashing a war, creating a pseudo state (Transnistria) and then freezing the conflict for an extended period of time.
Seems like they keep reusing the same playbook:
- destabilize and divide a former Soviet republic
- arm pro-Russian seperatists
- unleash a war
- create a pseudo-state
- freeze the conflict for an extended period
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Old 01-16-2023, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Will the war in Ukraine spell the end of Transnistria?



Seems like they keep reusing the same playbook:
- destabilize and divide a former Soviet republic
- arm pro-Russian seperatists
- unleash a war
- create a pseudo-state
- freeze the conflict for an extended period
And with every cycle things come to an end. Ukraine appears to be the end of that road.
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Old 01-16-2023, 01:29 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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There are a few things which could galvanize the Russian people and send what is left of their young men scrambling to get into the army. A NATO missile hitting Moscow would be one. That would be on par with the appearance of a US bomber overhead.


Another one is the appearance of a German tank anywhere in Russia. It wouldn't matter much who is driving it and what their intentions are; it's a German tank and Russians could be expected to react badly, just as the Germans would if a Russian tank appeared in Germany.
I think Germany is stalling. Germany is hoping this war will be settled before they have to provide heavy materiel that screams "GERMANY!"
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