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Old 07-31-2014, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
The "surge" is in families, not minors.

And less than 25% of those minors are under 15.

CPB reports..FY13 to June FY14
Illegal minors up 103%
Illegal families up 493%

Congress just heard one "unaccompanied minor" testify.
He complained of overcrowding, cold food and bad bathroom conditions.

And then he was flown "home" to Long Island where his mother and 5 sisters live.

And that is exactly what the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Action Act of 2008 calls for. They are sent to live with family members already in the U.S while they wait for Immigration hearings.
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Old 07-31-2014, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It isn't about intrepeting anything. The law calls for any children that come to the U.S illegally from countries other than Mexico or Canada to have a immigration hearing.
The law says nothing about "family units" though and 56000 "family units" got released into the US with permisos since last October and just in the southwest section of the US.

Since last October 290,000 were caught and released.

Yes they are given permios.
But over 90% are no shows at their immigration hearings.


They have disappeared into the fabric of America that the Muslims created.
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Old 07-31-2014, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Because the "extra funding" was in last year's budget.
HHS got over $500 million EXTRA for this "surge" that they even projected.
About $300 million of that went to the border, $70 million went to the courts. The 2008 law calls for the immigration hearings from those coming from all countries with the exception of Mexico and Canada. The illegal immigrants from Mexico have actually dropped considerably, those from Central America have increased considerably. Due to the law they have to now go through the courts which has become completely back logged and hasn't received enough funding.
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Old 07-31-2014, 04:09 PM
 
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Because the "extra funding" was in last year's budget.
HHS got over $500 million EXTRA for this "surge" that they even projected.
Again, conservatives were on tv stressing that this was a humanitarian crisis that border patrol didn't have the man power or the facilities to handle this humanitarian crisis.


They were calling for the Natinal guard to come in, that right there costs extra money. They were demanding that people be deported faster, that right there costs extra money to process these people and the cost to send them back.


Again the rank insanity and dishonesty of conservatives is here for anyone paying attention.


For weeks conservatives, were insisting this was a huge disaster that was overwhelming the border patrol and creating a humanitarian crisis, that they would address, but now none of that required extra spending. Lol

Well why did conservatives introduce a bill with extra spending, just for giggles. And again, the main opposition from other conservatives to the conservative bill wasn't the money. So even they thought done extra money would need to be spent.


This is la la land fantasy level thinking from conservatives that simply makes no sense.
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Old 07-31-2014, 04:40 PM
 
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See post 88.
No wonder you're feeling frustrated and disenfranchised. I would be too if not a single person in Congress or the Senate shared my view of how to address the crisis. Must be painful.
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Old 07-31-2014, 04:51 PM
 
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The stupid party is still trying to pass this bill. Read here from National Review.
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Old 07-31-2014, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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If they are running out of money then maybe they shouldn't be flying these illegal minors to Hawaii for their 15 day stay eh ?
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Old 07-31-2014, 05:06 PM
 
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The stupid party is still trying to pass this bill. Read here from National Review.
It is hilarious and dangerous for our nation, how insane the conservative party has become.

Look we were all witness to the parade of conservatives who stressed over and over again how this was a humanitarian crisis that was overwhelming the border patrol. We all saw the ugly xenophobic reaction of many conservatives to buses filled with children.
Some elected conservatives officials called it an invasion. conservatives regularly expressed extreme fears about spreading disease and rampant criminals, the whole nine.

This how conservatives described this issue. No exaggeration on my part.

They stressed that something must be done and that they were going to create a public policy to address what conservatives were calling a disaster, an emergency, a humanitarian crisis.

And conservatives are so radical and insane that they failed at even passing a bill to a problem that they stressed.
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Old 07-31-2014, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Bahahaha the GOP leadership is an embarrassment. They let Ted Cruz bring them to their knees. Oh and this :

"In a joint statement, GOP leaders said they would continue to work towards a solution and put the onus on President Obama to act on his own.

"There are numerous steps the president can and should be taking right now, without the need for congressional action, to secure our borders and ensure these children are returned swiftly and safely to their countries," read the statement."

So they sued the president for taking action and now they want him to take more executive action. You just can't make this up. Someone throw Boehner's weak a** out. The Tea Party run the house.

House GOP abandons their own border bill
Some rather large hypocrisy, irony whatever you want to call it on the part of the GOP, Charles Kurralt stated it pretty much the same way.

This is not good for the country and Obama should ask the senate to stay over to work this out, if this is a crisis then no one from congress should be going on a vacation.
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Old 07-31-2014, 05:14 PM
 
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You nailed it.
No he didn't. He's being intellectually dishonest, as usual. And so are you. Democrats have been arguing that Obama has the latitude within the law to disregard the provisions requiring a hearing under extenuating circumstances. What changed? Nothing. Liberals are just habitual liars.
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