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Old 08-03-2013, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by Spaten_Drinker View Post
When it gets back to under 5%, I will cheer.
all we will need to do is have 9 million more people drop out of the work force. That is what this current unemployment figure represents, loss of work force, and more part-time employment, this is not good news, this is not because more people are working.
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Old 08-03-2013, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Don't mean to disappoint you but the u6 unemployment rate also dropped.
That is what happens when people are removed from the labor force, even the U6 number no longer counts them any more.
The number of officially unemployed fell by 263,000 to 11.5 million in July, while 240,000 people dropped out of the labor market.

The number of people employed part-time for economic reasons -- because their hours were cut back or they could not find a full-time job -- rose slightly to 8.2 million.
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Old 08-03-2013, 04:02 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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all we will need to do is have 9 million more people drop out of the work force. That is what this current unemployment figure represents, loss of work force, and more part-time employment, this is not good news, this is not because more people are working.
Baby boomers are getting pretty old so something like that will happen slowly between now and 2030
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Old 08-03-2013, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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It's not just liberals. When Occupy attacked the ones responsible for a big part of the Economic Crisis conservatives chastised them and even applauded Police beating them and detaining them indefinitely.

Partisanship is what's destroying the country. D's or R's aren't immune.
The difference that you are missing, is some of the worst on the left are their elected representatives, while all the left can point to is some lunatic fringe civilian, nobody, who they point to as being from the right.
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Old 08-03-2013, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Baby boomers are getting pretty old so something like that will happen slowly between now and 2030
And yet only 25% or so who hit the age to collect social security are bothering to retire.

This year, leading-edge boomers are turning 66, the age at which one can claim full Social Security benefits, but many of those eligible are continuing to work.



In fact, recent Labor Department figures show that the percentage of workers over age of 65 is now at a record high.
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Old 08-03-2013, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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And yet only 25% or so who hit the age to collect social security are bothering to retire.

This year, leading-edge boomers are turning 66, the age at which one can claim full Social Security benefits, but many of those eligible are continuing to work.



In fact, recent Labor Department figures show that the percentage of workers over age of 65 is now at a record high.
The SS monthly snapshot only showed a 10,000 increase in SS recipients between May 2013 and June 2013.
I only looked at SS, not the other variants.
That kinda backs up what you've posted.

The talking head keep telling us the decrease is due to everyone retiring yet the numbers don't back that up.
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Old 08-03-2013, 04:42 PM
 
Location: North America
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This is 2013, the days where people get disappointed and angry when the unemployment rate falls.

Or is it just because Obama is in office?

Both. If their guy had won..well, you know.
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Old 08-03-2013, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Well then just ignore the finer points and keep cheering as that number goes down.

When no one is working and we're not counting anyone then we'll have 0% of the population unemployed.
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The article I posted, using official numbers doesn't support this story. Look at where the trends are in their own official numbers. These kind of headlines are promoted right up there with mythical rainy day funds.
If you went by their story..10,000 a day turn 65 then you have 300,000 people retiring each month.
And they are off by one year because it's 66 now.

And they are not signing up for SS either..the net was a 10K increase between the May/June snapshot.
Are they all dying before they get to the SS office ?
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:59 PM
 
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The PBS Business Guy says it's because of baby boomer retirement. That's right, Pee Bee Ess.

"The simple story of the July unemployment numbers, released Friday, is that the population grew by about 200,000 people and new jobs absorbed just about all of them. Why did the unemployment rate go down -- from 7.6 percent to 7.4 percent? Because the official "workforce" actually declined -- by about 40,000 people. What could explain the drop, given the rise in population? "Ten thousand baby boomers turn 65 today" has become a demographic cliché (or meme, if you prefer). Barring a mass and age-selective plague, that means that 10,000 or so are also turning 66, their official Social Security retirement age. Many, if not most, baby boomers are retiring. And since 10,000 a day equals 300,000 a month, if two-thirds of them are hanging up their rock 'n' roll work shoes, Friday's numbers would make sense: 200,000 or so retirees offsetting the 200,000 or so new working-age Americans."

"...new workers are entering the labor force at lower wages while higher-paid baby boomers retire."

Is Baby Boomer Retirement Behind the Drop in July's Unemployment Rate? | The Business Desk with Paul Solman | PBS NewsHour | PBS
The article I posted, using official numbers doesn't support this story. Look at where the trends are in their own official numbers. These kind of headlines are promoted right up there with mythical rainy day funds.
Making 9 Million Jobless Vanish: How The Government Manipulates ...
This is fairly clear.

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