Why do the males get no say? (suspect, salary, how much)

[~HecateWhisperCat~]

Originally Posted by ray1945

And I suppose you consider yourself a "normal man"? Seriously - a compilation of your posts on just this thread would make for a wonderful case study of a disturbed personality.

I doubt that you've ever been in a relationship with a non-inflatable woman.

Hey now, he just might have the cash to buy himself a real doll

[FrugalYankee]

Originally Posted by city_data91

Of course the male can't get an abortion. But I don't think the male should need to pay child support for a baby he doesn't want.

In that case he can either keep it in his pants or take responsibility for birth control. It takes two to tango.

[nightflight]

Originally Posted by FrugalYankee

In that case he can either keep it in his pants or take responsibility for birth control. It takes two to tango.

I know you yours is a wise retort, but please explain to me why your words wouldn't apply to a woman.

[malamute]

Originally Posted by nightflight

I know you yours is a wise retort, but please explain to me why your words wouldn't apply to a woman.

I think because the women really have nothing to complain about.

The woman can simply decide to have the baby killed before the baby is born. No problem. If that's what she decides to do with her baby.

Or she can apply for food stamps, Section 8 housing, Medicaid AND go after 1/4 of the guy's income for the next 18 years and have a nice subsidy to her welfare checks.

Men are complaining because they have absolutely no say either way. Even if the man would be the better parent, the parent that would provide financial support and the child wouldn't have to grow up on food stamps and other welfare handouts, he will be denied custody if he were to want to raise the child himself.

[FrugalYankee]

Originally Posted by nightflight

I know you yours is a wise retort, but please explain to me why your words wouldn't apply to a woman.

Because they do not have to in this thread. Perhaps you should read the title and the OP.

[Nairobi]

Originally Posted by chielgirl

Yet you miss the salient points.

You and someone else has said that, but either of you have yet to tell me what these points are.

If you want a level-headed person to see things your way, then y'all have got to give me a better explanation than "men are evil and are to blame for everything, and women can do and control whoever/whatever they want."

Why isn't a man allowed to walk away from a pregnancy, but a woman is?

[nightflight]

Originally Posted by FrugalYankee

Because they do not have to in this thread. Perhaps you should read the title and the OP.

But I wasn't replying to the OP. I was replying to you and the statement you made.

[malamute]

If the laws on giving custody were made equal, you can bet a whole lot more women would decide to use birth control when they go for their hook-ups.

Imagine if the courts were to evaluate both parents on ability to provide for the child, and men were awarded custody of babies about half the time? And then could request 1/4 of the woman's pay check or have her tossed in prison if she refused to work and pay it? Or if in order to get child support, the woman had to prove she was contributing also for the support of the child?

[FrugalYankee]

Originally Posted by nightflight

But I wasn't replying to the OP. I was replying to you and the statement you made.

Thanks but I'm not interested in helping you hijack OP's thread. Maybe you should start your own and see if anyone takes you up on it.

[nightflight]

Originally Posted by FrugalYankee

Thanks but I'm not interested in helping you hijack OP's thread. Maybe you should start your own and see if anyone takes you up on it.

I really don't think the OP would mind. Especially after 86 pages.