Why do the males get no say? (racist, election, differences)
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I think because the women really have nothing to complain about.
The woman can simply decide to have the baby killed before the baby is born. No problem. If that's what she decides to do with her baby.
Or she can apply for food stamps, Section 8 housing, Medicaid AND go after 1/4 of the guy's income for the next 18 years and have a nice subsidy to her welfare checks.
Men are complaining because they have absolutely no say either way. Even if the man would be the better parent, the parent that would provide financial support and the child wouldn't have to grow up on food stamps and other welfare handouts, he will be denied custody if he were to want to raise the child himself.
Considering the average median salary for men is 47000 and the average median payment is 230 dollars a month I think you need a math class . And you are wrong also as a MAN doesn't have to be gone after to get child support, because he will be helping out on his own volition. And the custody laws are equal which is some thing you seem to have no knowledge about. In majority of cases custody is settled out of court. So if that is the case then that would tell us that most men are ceding primary care correct?
Considering the average median salary for men is 47000 and the average median payment is 230 dollars a month I think you need a math class . And you are wrong also as a MAN doesn't have to be gone after to get child support, because he will be helping out on his own volition. And the custody laws are equal which is some thing you seem to have no knowledge about. In majority of cases custody is settled out of court. So if that is the case then that would tell us that most men are ceding primary care correct?
Some of the willful obtuseness displayed here sure doesnt help their stance, does it?
You know somethings have to be worked out. This is a complex issue and not every situation is the same. I think our society does poorly dealing w/ many issues that lead here. I have to agree w/ what someone said. Don't have sex.
If you have sex, regardless of protection or procedures, you can have a pregnancy. That is what intercourse is for. Babies. Whatever happens both people are responsible. (assuming this is consensual)
Ultimately, it is the woman's body so I think they should have certain say so's over their body.
Considering the average median salary for men is 47000 and the average median payment is 230 dollars a month I think you need a math class . And you are wrong also as a MAN doesn't have to be gone after to get child support, because he will be helping out on his own volition. And the custody laws are equal which is some thing you seem to have no knowledge about. In majority of cases custody is settled out of court. So if that is the case then that would tell us that most men are ceding primary care correct?
The custody laws are not equal, certainly not when it's an unwed mother and father. A single father going after custody can only win if the mother is extremely abusive and neglectful and he has to prove it.
The courts should look at the over-all picture when it comes to custody. If the father can provide a more stable home, provide financial support to keep the kids off welfare programs then give him custody. And the mother can pay $230 a month to him for the next 18 years.
Why isn't a man allowed to walk away from a pregnancy, but a woman is?
like rock, paper, scissors, uterus/womb trumps. seriously men who are serious about not paying child support or having children to support need to use better birth control, and ALL the time. I suspect the majority of men don't want to this. too much trouble.
both sexes should be able to enjoy sex even if they don't want a pregnancy. should one occur if a man's bc has failed and a child is the result? the reality of pregnancy is now out of his hands/body/control. not so for a woman. hook line and sinker the choice is her responsibility. womb trumps donation mishap.
women give birth and have children all the time that they really didn't want to have when they originally became pregnant. their CHOICE was life, they took the responsibility the man should as well. not all women will have an abortion. not all women can give their child up for adoption. women have choice because it is on our shoulders alone when you get down to it.
the barn door was open, it may have been an accident or not. blame isn't whats important. child support is whats important at this point.
the barn door was open, it may have been an accident or not. blame isn't whats important. child support is whats important at this point.
Yes, but when a woman goes to court to demand child support be given her, it would be better if the father had a chance to have primary custody instead.
Imagine how much better it would be if the judges were to consider BOTH parents' income, both parents' ability to provide a stable home and family life and award custody based on that? A woman who has no desire herself to work and provide the fiancial support of her children should not have automatic custody.
But who would ever be insane enough to trust a man with an erection who claimed he was on the pill?
Not many women would, that is for sure.
I am more interested to know how many men would even take a male pill if they had to deal with the same side effects they take for granted that women have to risk.
They are so cavalier about pregnancy, let alone of the risks a woman takes when she is on the pill. How many men have even given a thought about the possible side effects of being on the pill.....something that all women have to worry about? Let's not forget about having to go to a doctor once a year for a nasty exam to get it either.
I don't think any of the men whining here in this thread would change places with women given the chance, do you?
Life isn't fair boys....if it was....you would have a period every month, you would have to take risks to use BC like the pill, you would have to suffer pregnancy and childbirth.
Men get to escape all of the physical responsiibly when it comes to continuing the species, yet whine about their financial responsibilities......financial responsibilities that are equal to those shared by by women, BTW.
And, as someone else pointed out.....MOST men gladly give the role of custodial parent to the woman.....they do not want the resposibility of being a single dad.
IF men could change places with women......how many would? NOT ONE!
Quit whining guys.....you have nothing to whine about.
{If men had periods, they would call in sick 5 days out of every month! }
The guy who doesn't wish to pay this support certainly can choose to be snipped, just like the woman who really doesn't want to have a child can choose to be snipped. That would be much better than abortion.
The problem is, doctors won't sterilize young people, especially young women.
Many will not steilize a woman under thirty unless she already has children.
The custody laws are not equal, certainly not when it's an unwed mother and father. A single father going after custody can only win if the mother is extremely abusive and neglectful and he has to prove it.
The courts should look at the over-all picture when it comes to custody. If the father can provide a more stable home, provide financial support to keep the kids off welfare programs then give him custody. And the mother can pay $230 a month to him for the next 18 years.
Once again you have no idea of what you are talking about *I think we can see a pattern here*. Courts usually award joint custody with parents unless one is deemed to be unfit. Financial support is balanced against other thing in regards to custody as well, if a child's mother makes 40 k and the father makes 100 but works 80 hours a week then that's not necesarily giving the child a better life now is it?
Yes, but when a woman goes to court to demand child support be given her, it would be better if the father had a chance to have primary custody instead.
Imagine how much better it would be if the judges were to consider BOTH parents' income, both parents' ability to provide a stable home and family life and award custody based on that? A woman who has no desire herself to work and provide the fiancial support of her children should not have automatic custody.
sure that is what court is for, to settle inequities and disputes. however to that argument why should a mother give up primary custody of her child because the man has more money then she? there is not many men that would choose primary custody given the choice to pay child support. most men in these cases want to do neither.
a child need as you know emotional support and benefits from equal time w/both parents. motivation and drive of either parent in life is not solely relevant at this point.
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. And you are wrong also as a MAN doesn't have to be gone after to get child support, because he will be helping out on his own volition. And the custody laws are equal which is some thing you seem to have no knowledge about. In majority of cases custody is settled out of court. So if that is the case then that would tell us that most men are ceding primary care correct?
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