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Old 12-22-2010, 10:45 AM
 
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When you get into a presidential election, it decidedly favors Democrats, and every year it is going to decidedly favor them more and more," says Carville. The duo, armed with polls, detail the changing demographics: Younger voters are leaning Democratic more, as are Hispanics, blacks, and unmarried women—all expanding constituencies. "Look at what's coming in 2012. Every election becomes less white," says Carville. "Republicans are forced to double down on older whites, which is, long-term, not a very productive place to be," he adds.

The result is so baked in that Obama won't have to work hard to win re-election in 2012, says Carville, Bill Clinton's political guru. "He has to do somewhat better; he doesn't have to do a whole lot better." Adds Greenberg, Obama probably won't even face a primary challenge, he "will be there by himself."


Then why did Obama's party lose control of the House, and get crushed in the Senate, in the midterms? They say the Democratic base doesn't vote heavily in those elections. In fact that trend, Carville suggests, could result in a reversal of the pattern that Democrats win congressional elections while Republicans take the White House.
Pollsters Say Obama Will Win Re-election in 2012 - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)
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Old 12-22-2010, 11:36 AM
 
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Waaaaaaaay too early to say. No sense in prognosticating this mess so early. The incumbent always has an advantage....no new revelations there.
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Old 12-22-2010, 11:51 AM
 
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I saw a poll from fox the other day and even they admit it will be an easy win for Obama. They've got Obama by 6% over Romney and a whopping 14% over Palin and that's coming from fox.
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Old 12-22-2010, 12:05 PM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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When you get into a presidential election, it decidedly favors Democrats, and every year it is going to decidedly favor them more and more," says Carville. The duo, armed with polls, detail the changing demographics: Younger voters are leaning Democratic more, as are Hispanics, blacks, and unmarried women—all expanding constituencies. "Look at what's coming in 2012. Every election becomes less white," says Carville. "Republicans are forced to double down on older whites, which is, long-term, not a very productive place to be," he adds.

The result is so baked in that Obama won't have to work hard to win re-election in 2012, says Carville, Bill Clinton's political guru. "He has to do somewhat better; he doesn't have to do a whole lot better." Adds Greenberg, Obama probably won't even face a primary challenge, he "will be there by himself."


Then why did Obama's party lose control of the House, and get crushed in the Senate, in the midterms? They say the Democratic base doesn't vote heavily in those elections. In fact that trend, Carville suggests, could result in a reversal of the pattern that Democrats win congressional elections while Republicans take the White House.
Pollsters Say Obama Will Win Re-election in 2012 - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)
Could well be true, but that's much more a sad commentary on the potential opponents than on Obama. I don't know who would beat him among those currently on the radar.
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Old 12-22-2010, 12:07 PM
 
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a dirty garbage rat could beat Obama at this point.
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Old 12-22-2010, 12:17 PM
 
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a dirty garbage rat could beat Obama at this point.
Don't worry......a dirty garbage rat (aka a Republican ) will try......and fail!
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Old 12-22-2010, 12:27 PM
 
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a dirty garbage rat could beat Obama at this point.
Yes, there are certainly some solid "dirty garbage rat" voters out there to keep you company, but it's going to take a lot more to get the job done.

It's going to take a fresh new probably Independent face....a fresher face than Reagan was and one with a fair share of his populist charm. At the moment there is no such candidate....at least not one of whom most people are aware.
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Old 12-22-2010, 01:44 PM
 
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I thought Haley "Yazoo City Wasn't So Bad" Barbour would have been a GREAT candidate, but apparently i was wrong. Mike Huckabee is a Repub who wouldn't scare the hell out of me if he was elected Prez.

Marco Rubio is a fresh face...until he opens his mouth.
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Old 12-22-2010, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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When you get into a presidential election, it decidedly favors Democrats, and every year it is going to decidedly favor them more and more," says Carville. The duo, armed with polls, detail the changing demographics: Younger voters are leaning Democratic more, as are Hispanics, blacks, and unmarried women—all expanding constituencies. "Look at what's coming in 2012. Every election becomes less white," says Carville. "Republicans are forced to double down on older whites, which is, long-term, not a very productive place to be," he adds.

The result is so baked in that Obama won't have to work hard to win re-election in 2012, says Carville, Bill Clinton's political guru. "He has to do somewhat better; he doesn't have to do a whole lot better." Adds Greenberg, Obama probably won't even face a primary challenge, he "will be there by himself."


Then why did Obama's party lose control of the House, and get crushed in the Senate, in the midterms? They say the Democratic base doesn't vote heavily in those elections. In fact that trend, Carville suggests, could result in a reversal of the pattern that Democrats win congressional elections while Republicans take the White House.
Pollsters Say Obama Will Win Re-election in 2012 - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)
and what Carville says should be taken as the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I can't understand how Mary has managed to live with him all these years.

Nita
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Old 12-22-2010, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I saw a poll from fox the other day and even they admit it will be an easy win for Obama. They've got Obama by 6% over Romney and a whopping 14% over Palin and that's coming from fox.
and you are sure Palin or Romney will be the candidate? Come back this time next year and tell us that...

Nita
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