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Old 10-19-2022, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania/Maine
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In Australia, after a mass killing, many lawful, responsible gun owners gave up their weapons in support of the greater good. Would any here consider doing so -- say, for a 25% reduction in gun deaths, and with the knowledge that strong policing and sentencing policies would also be implemented.
Australians have also given up their right to choose to get vaccinations or not, with the country forcing them into it "all for the greater good". Australians love to be controlled. Getting back to Allegheny County, what percentage of gun-related violence is attributable to legally purchased guns? Are statistics kept?

 
Old 10-19-2022, 12:35 PM
 
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Still not sure why we take gun control efforts off the table here? Let's get police out there; let's make sure there is no revolving door, but seems idiotic not to take reasonable gun control methods that are supported by the vast majority of the public.


Just one random straw purchasing situation -- not sure why we can't drastically limit how many guns folks can purchase a year. Gun owners, we are asking you to give up a "right" -- that should be acknowledged. We know most of you are not the problem, we know guns are in the hands of assailants. However, the volume of guns in this country is, no doubt, leading to an increase in gun violence, and while gun violence will likely always be with us to some degree, decreasing the volume of guns, is one way to decrease violence.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-mn/pr/t...tiple-firearms

In Australia, after a mass killing, many lawful, responsible gun owners gave up their weapons in support of the greater good. Would any here consider doing so -- say, for a 25% reduction in gun deaths, and with the knowledge that strong policing and sentencing policies would also be implemented.



No, because even though they won't say it out loud, they don't care about the types of folks that are being killed.
 
Old 10-19-2022, 12:37 PM
 
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The park is a community asset not to mention it covers a large area. Lots of investment and energy put into refurbishing the park. There is one corner maybe 10% of the park that is the problem. This park was one of the first urban parks in the US. You cannot surrender the park to a few teenage and young adult sh!+ heads.

It is not a housing project. It is a private subsidized apartment complex. A nuisance property.
Yes the park is an asset but it is also a homeless camp and a place for criminals to hide. I am not saying to get rid of it but if a dip**** like me can see what is going on why don't the police. Maybe there needs to be cameras set up along the cedar ave side and the project side.
 
Old 10-19-2022, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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No, because even though they won't say it out loud, they don't care about the types of folks that are being killed.
Bingo… many folks couldn’t care less about violent criminals lives. Violent criminals have no respect for human life so let them reap the repercussions of their behavior, along with them meeting capital punishment. Though they should learn how to aim better so they’re not such a burden on taxpayers. Unfortunately, there’s also many that defend and enable them to and give them the opportunity to become repeat violent criminals…and the idea that less guns means less violent crime is great stuff. Criminals will always find access to firearms, and guns also get smuggled in like drugs.

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Old 10-19-2022, 02:18 PM
 
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No, because even though they won't say it out loud, they don't care about the types of folks that are being killed.
Wow! Powerful response.
 
Old 10-19-2022, 04:02 PM
 
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Bingo… many folks couldn’t care less about violent criminals lives. Violent criminals have no respect for human life so let them reap the repercussions of their behavior, along with them meeting capital punishment. Though they should learn how to aim better so they’re not such a burden on taxpayers. Unfortunately, there’s also many that defend and enable them to and give them the opportunity to become repeat violent criminals…and the idea that less guns means less violent crime is great stuff. Criminals will always find access to firearms, and guns also get smuggled in like drugs.
Isn't the person you're responding to one of the people who has criticized you and called you names for daring to mention shootings in the city? It sounds like he's the one who doesn't care about people being shot, if anyone. Maybe he's done a complete about-face on this issue recently. Or maybe he's completely full of $h!t.

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Old 10-19-2022, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Isn't the person you're responding to one of the people who has criticized you and called you names for daring to mention shootings in the city? It sounds like he's the one who doesn't care about people being shot, if anyone. Maybe he's done a complete about-face on this issue recently. Or maybe he's completely full of $h!t.
Bingo…and excellent points
 
Old 10-19-2022, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Former Shuman Juvenile Detention Center head, county council member weigh in on future of center

https://www.wtae.com/amp/article/shu...ntion/41697544

Reality and very refreshing by Ford:

“We have an Allegheny County system that has no juvenile detention facility right now, and we have no plan ‘b.’ We have juveniles out there that are being released that are repeat offenders, with previous gun charges, and they're still out there,” Ford said.

Hallum will keep offenders and repeat offenders on the streets, and with gun charges:

Hallam serves on the jail oversight board, which does not have a say in the Shuman Center, but she said it should have.

She does not support the center reopening.

“Yes, we are seeing violence at a rate that we have not seen in decades, but is the reason Shuman? Because I don’t believe that,” Hallam said.
 
Old 10-19-2022, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Etna, PA
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In Australia, after a mass killing, many lawful, responsible gun owners gave up their weapons in support of the greater good. Would any here consider doing so -- say, for a 25% reduction in gun deaths, and with the knowledge that strong policing and sentencing policies would also be implemented.
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Australians have also given up their right to choose to get vaccinations or not, with the country forcing them into it "all for the greater good". Australians love to be controlled.
Bingo, but we all know doowlle/Burgophilia_2 would have loved to live in a Covidist dictatorship where military force was used to enforce 'public health measures' by stomping on the rights of citizens.

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The Australian Defence Force will be deployed to the ACT border in coming days to help stem the flow of unauthorised travel from NSW.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sto...at-act-border/
From just over a year ago..

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The soldiers arrive almost a month after police deployed an extra 100 officers to the area to enforce lockdown rules.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-58066389
Soldiers in the streets of Sydney.
 
Old 10-19-2022, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Bingo, but we all know doowlle/Burgophilia_2 would have loved to live in a Covidist dictatorship where military force was used to enforce 'public health measures' by stomping on the rights of citizens.



From just over a year ago..



Soldiers in the streets of Sydney.
Bingo…hilarious how folks expect others to do and live like they do and get so angry when they don’t, and want the government to get them their way, lol
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