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Old 09-25-2022, 12:52 PM
 
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Frankly erie even had me fooled for many months. I thought certainly he was just sharing all these crime stories not because he gave a crap about crime or the victims but because he was just trying to echo Republican talking points about rising crime. But after month after month after month of the same tactic from Erie guy I realized no reasonable person could view all these gun crimes and conclude that we do not have too much gun supply. So finally his master plan became clear to me; it was really eye-opening

 
Old 09-25-2022, 01:50 PM
 
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What is a "leftist"? Life is full of contradictions right? You criticize the newer residents of Lawrenceville, with their influx, crime in Lawrenceville (I assume) drastically decreased, and they call the police for quality of life crimes (just like the former residents of Lawrenceville), but perhaps (some of) the new residents support judges who have lighter sentencing practices? This is certainly your thesis, although you offer little support of it, other than ad hoc references to signs in windows. It is a contradiction, but it cannot be gainsaid that crime has decreased. So, either Lawrenceville continued to decline, and crime continued to stay high, or we have this influx, and lower crime, and increased property values, and oh yea, some possible contradiction that is, essentially, meaningless.

I'll take the contradiction, rather decline and "purity" of thought.
Human beings use words to communicate. Anyone who's at all familiar with American society and the English language knows what the word "leftist" refers to. What do you want proof of? Are Mik Pappas and that non-binary or whatever person not now the magistrate judges for Lawrenceville, having unseated some perfectly good long-standing judges? I read the Lisa Middleman received strong support in the "East End" in her D.A. run. Was that fake news? Why did they vote for these people? Because those candidates promised to be soft on crime. Yet I don't believe for a second that the people who live in those neighborhoods really want a soft-on-crime approach. If my saying that really hurts your feeling this much, I don't know what to tell you.

People voting for policies that they don't really want is not meaningless. If you want abortion to remain legal, would you vote for someone who vows to make it illegal? No. Why? Because that would produce results that you don't want, obviously.

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Old 09-25-2022, 01:59 PM
 
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Human beings use words to communicate. Anyone who's at all familiar with American society and the English language knows what the word "leftist" refers to. What do you want proof of? Are Mik Pappas and that non-binary or whatever person not now the magistrate judges for Lawrenceville, having unseated some perfectly good long-standing judges? I read the Lisa Middleman received strong support in the "East End" in her D.A. run. Was that fake news? Why did they vote for these people? Because those candidates promised to be soft on crime. Yet I don't believe for a second that the people who live in those neighborhoods really want a soft-on-crime approach. If my saying that really hurts your feeling this much, I don't know what to tell you.

People voting for policies that they don't really want is not meaningless. If you want abortion to remain legal, would you vote for someone who vows to make it illegal? No. Why? Because that would make no f$%%ing sense, obviously.
Lol, you’re such an idiot.
 
Old 09-25-2022, 02:06 PM
 
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Incredible there is a thread with 2,000 responses on here regarding gun violence.

The OP has trouble conveying their message. Much like they do on the Steelers thread. Looks like they are 2,000 of the responses on here.

It sounds like this thread is a thinly veiled attempt to promote gun control. Why beat around the bush. Come out and say you want gun control.
 
Old 09-25-2022, 02:10 PM
 
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Human beings use words to communicate. Anyone who's at all familiar with American society and the English language knows what the word "leftist" refers to. What do you want proof of? Are Mik Pappas and that non-binary or whatever person not now the magistrate judges for Lawrenceville, having unseated some perfectly good long-standing judges? I read the Lisa Middleman received strong support in the "East End" in her D.A. run. Was that fake news? Why did they vote for these people? Because those candidates promised to be soft on crime. Yet I don't believe for a second that the people who live in those neighborhoods really want a soft-on-crime approach. If my saying that really hurts your feeling this much, I don't know what to tell you.

People voting for policies that they don't really want is not meaningless. If you want abortion to remain legal, would you vote for someone who vows to make it illegal? No. Why? Because that would produce results that you don't want, obviously.
It just seems that you are focusing on the one aspect of these folks that may contribute to worsening crime, while ignoring the many aspects that have lowered crime. It seems as if you would prefer the status quo ante with more crime but no contradictions.
 
Old 09-25-2022, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Incredible there is a thread with 2,000 responses on here regarding gun violence.

The OP has trouble conveying their message. Much like they do on the Steelers thread. Looks like they are 2,000 of the responses on here.

It sounds like this thread is a thinly veiled attempt to promote gun control. Why beat around the bush. Come out and say you want gun control.
Nah, criminal control is what’s needed. Wayyy too many violent criminals, and especially repeat violent criminals on the streets.
 
Old 09-25-2022, 02:23 PM
 
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Nah, criminal control is what’s needed. Wayyy too many violent criminals, and especially repeat violent criminals on the streets.
So you are saying police don’t do their jobs?
 
Old 09-25-2022, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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So you are saying police don’t do their jobs?
They’re not allowed to do their jobs without folks crying about them being big meanies. Many folks don’t even want them in their neighborhoods to do their jobs. They prefer defending and enabling criminals than having them put away. Though Big Ed says he’s hiring more police officers so perhaps the skyrocketing violent crime isn’t going well for these folks
 
Old 09-25-2022, 02:27 PM
 
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Lol, you’re such an idiot.
Another thought provoking responce by you
 
Old 09-25-2022, 02:27 PM
 
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They’re not allowed to do their jobs. Many folks don’t even want them in their neighborhoods to do their jobs. They prefer defending and enabling criminals than having them put away. Though Big Ed says he’s hiring more police officers so perhaps the skyrocketing violent crime isn’t going well for these folks
What are you talking about? Who isn’t allowing them to do their jobs? It sounds like you are blaming the police because you want more criminal control. And your endless posts on gun violence make it apparent you believe in gun control
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