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Old 09-12-2011, 03:16 PM
 
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If you are born in a Christian neighborhood with Christian parents, you'll probably grow up programmed as a Christian.

If you are born in a Hindu neighborhood with Hindu parents, you'll probably grow up programmed a Hindu.

If you are born in a Buddist neighborhood with Buddist parents, you'll probably grow programmed a Buddist.

If you weren't born into any religion, or you are later deprogrammed, you will probably grow up an agnostic or an atheist, simply by the lack of programming.
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Warren, Michigan
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If you are born in a Christian neighborhood with Christian parents, you'll probably grow up programmed as a Christian.

If you are born in a Hindu neighborhood with Hindu parents, you'll probably grow up programmed a Hindu.

If you are born in a Buddist neighborhood with Buddist parents, you'll probably grow programmed a Buddist.

If you weren't born into any religion, or you are later deprogrammed, you will probably grow up an agnostic or an atheist, simply by the lack of programming.

Oh no, no! It goes much deeper than the above. Isaiah 45:15;" Truly thou art a God who hides himself." Prov. 16:9," The mind of man plans his way; but the Lord directs his steps." Prov. 20:24," Mans steps are ordained by the Lord, how then can man understand his way? It does not matter where you are born, or into what kind of situation, your life will be ordained to go as God so wills it to.
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:31 PM
 
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Thanks for Hitler, God! *sarcasm*

Truely, I tell you, there must be an extra-marvoulous ending to off-set all the horrible current design.
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:37 PM
 
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Oh no, no! It goes much deeper than the above. Isaiah 45:15;" Truly thou art a God who hides himself." Prov. 16:9," The mind of man plans his way; but the Lord directs his steps." Prov. 20:24," Mans steps are ordained by the Lord, how then can man understand his way? It does not matter where you are born, or into what kind of situation, your life will be ordained to go as God so wills it to.

So you think God plans for all those people in Thailand to be Buddist? The people in Saudi Arabia to be Muslim? The people in India to be Hindu?

I don't think it works that way.

I'll bet you didn't sit down one day, carefully research each of the worlds religions, and choose the one that seems most likely to be true.

Because religion is best studies as an epidemilogist studies disease. It's spread from parent to child and neighbor to neighbor. Your neighbors and family happen to be Christians, and so you became a Christian- but if your neighbors had been Hindu, you'd be saying the same things about Hinduism.

In some respect, you didn't decide to be a Christian, you decided to be religious. Christianity was the religion chosen for you by your family and neighbors.
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:44 PM
 
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So you think God plans for all those people in Thailand to be Buddist? The people in Saudi Arabia to be Muslim? The people in India to be Hindu?

I don't think it works that way.

I'll bet you didn't sit down one day, carefully research each of the worlds religions, and choose the one that seems most likely to be true.

Because religion is best studies as an epidemilogist studies disease. It's spread from parent to child and neighbor to neighbor. Your neighbors and family happen to be Christians, and so you became a Christian- but if your neighbors had been Hindu, you'd be saying the same things about Hinduism.

In some respect, you didn't decide to be a Christian, you decided to be religious. Christianity was the religion chosen for you by your family and neighbors.

Oh no, no, no! Our place was chosen for us by God himself. He carefully placed within our consciousness, the place he feels we would do best. Your an Atheist, or whatever you are, because God thought it was the place best suited for you and him. We are what we are, soley because God preordained it. Thats WHY we all are garenteed Salvation, because none of us asked to be born, none of us are as responsible for ourselves, as God is for ourselves. None of us have the power to manipulate our lives, as God does.
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:47 PM
 
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Oh no, no, no! Our place was chosen for us by God himself. He carefully placed within our consciousness, the place he feels we would do best. Your an Atheist, or whatever you are, because God thought it was the place best suited for you and him. We are what we are, soley because God preordained it. Thats WHY we all are garenteed Salvation, because none of us asked to be born, none of us are as responsible for ourselves, as God is for ourselves. None of us have the power to manipulate our lives, as God does.

Well then God works in ways that are indistingioushable from there being no God at all - because we would get the same result whether or not a God existed.

Odd that.
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:56 PM
 
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Well then God works in ways that are indistingioushable from there being no God at all - because we would get the same result whether or not a God existed.

Odd that.

I disagree. Jeremiah 10:23;" I know, O Lord, that a mans way is NOT " In himself", nor is it in a man who walks to direct his steps." This means we were not born with instant direction, nor do we have control " Over God." God is the " All Parent", all wisdom is invested in him. As is all power. God , before the world was made, looked into this present time, at each one of our births, and decided THEN, how he wanted us to live; we simply filled his quota and took the spot he wanted us to take. He wanted so many believers, so many unbelievers, so many in this religion, and so many here and there.

For HIS purpose!

Peace.
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Old 09-12-2011, 04:11 PM
 
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And I'm supposed to believe the writers, editors, translaters, and your interpretation of Jeremiah... why?

They didn't have political motives? I doubt it.
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Old 09-12-2011, 05:17 PM
 
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And I'm supposed to believe the writers, editors, translaters, and your interpretation of Jeremiah... why?

They didn't have political motives? I doubt it.
You might add to that Mohammad, Joseph Smith, Jim Jones, David Koresh, and 1000's of others. There is nothing I see that would make one more believable than the other...It's all faith and which is the best salesman.

Like said above, when you are indoctrinated into religion or into believing in a deity from birth how could you make a logical decision?
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Old 09-13-2011, 06:18 AM
 
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I disagree. Jeremiah 10:23;" I know, O Lord, that a mans way is NOT " In himself", nor is it in a man who walks to direct his steps." This means we were not born with instant direction, nor do we have control " Over God." God is the " All Parent", all wisdom is invested in him. As is all power. God , before the world was made, looked into this present time, at each one of our births, and decided THEN, how he wanted us to live; we simply filled his quota and took the spot he wanted us to take. He wanted so many believers, so many unbelievers, so many in this religion, and so many here and there.

For HIS purpose!

Peace.
I suppose this is a waste of posting time but, Mickiel, mate, posting plonking personal opinions supported by selected Bible quotes is evidence of precisely nothing other than your inability to see anything other than through the thick - lensed pink - tinted spectacles of religious Faith.
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