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There are those on here that would like you to believe most ex-Ny's retun. But in reality it is only a small number. If those who moved and decided the move was not right. They more then not , skipped Ny returning elsewhere. To prove my point go to 50 houses in a radius and ask. Did you leave Ny to move south and retun to ny. But there are plenty on here to make it sound the other way.
Not one person said "most" people return. There are some that do! I know because I'm one of them. I didn't return to where I'm from in NY however. I moved 3 hours west of where I was raised in NY.
I know of 2 families who lived on my street in SC who moved back one. One went back to NY and one went back to St. Louis. I know a few others families who want desperately to move back home, but can't at this time because of jobs. If they won the lottery tomorrow, however, they'd be gone before nightfall.
We eventually made our way to Apex too! We actually lived down there for 13 years. Started out in North Raleigh off Leesville Road, then moved down to the Lochmere area of Cary, then to SW Raleigh off Lake Wheeler and Tryon, and then Apex for two years off Olive Chapel road in Hollands Crossing. Apex was a very nice family-friendly town that we definitely enjoyed the best of all of the areas of Wake County where we lived; but the overall transient feeling coupled with the frustration of Wake County schools, rising COL, and unpleasant summer weather and most of all missing family is why we moved back north. We did decide to stay in Apex for an extra year so that our oldest son could graduate from Apex High School though. It was a really great school and there was no point in pulling him out and moving for his senior year. Apex's small-town charm was definitely waning back in 2007 when we left and I'd imagine that trend hasn't reversed; especially since they expanded 540 right through the middle of town and made it a toll road!
Apex is the new Cary, Holly Springs is the new Apex. Soon enough, Holly Springs will be like Cary. Maybe in 5-10 years. F-V and Angier are still rural feeling, for the most part. Still, Apex is nice, and Cary is too. I've never seen such a treed city that has 3,500 people per square mile, I'm not sure how they do it, but the North could take a few lessons on planning from them. We have towns in NJ/NY with 1,500 people per square miles and the land is just bulldozed over and it feels crowded.
The anticipated new portion of 540 seems to be snaking its way through a lot of Holly Springs. As a side note, I was looking at housing in HS. It was brand spanking new, close to 55 bypass and the Triangle Expy, but cheap. Hmmm, red flag goes up. Came to find out the new expressway was going to bisect the development. No thanks. You have to be very careful where you buy or rent here because that plot of trees could be an expressway, hotel, or a Walmart in two years, right next to your house no matter how rural you think you are. Zoning in many of these areas makes no sense. Here's the Google image of a hotel and Walmart built on a freaking side road right next door to two formerly rural houses:
just_sayin': I was in that first wave, in 1994. Eventually moved back to Upstate NY because of personal reasons, but the culture shock and intense bible belt feel certainly made the decision easier.
VintageSunlight: I remember, in Raleigh/Cary, as far as Yankees went, they hated Jerseyians even more than New Yorkers!
I briefly lived in a public housing project (!…a friend unknowingly lined this up for us) in Holly Springs, and would often drive by a rich golf subdivision surrounded by 19th-century-looking shacks where you could see in between the wood beams. Very strange.
just_sayin': I was in that first wave, in 1994. Eventually moved back to Upstate NY because of personal reasons, but the culture shock and intense bible belt feel certainly made the decision easier.
VintageSunlight: I remember, in Raleigh/Cary, as far as Yankees went, they hated Jerseyians even more than New Yorkers!
I briefly lived in a public housing project (!…a friend unknowingly lined this up for us) in Holly Springs, and would often drive by a rich golf subdivision surrounded by 19th-century-looking shacks where you could see in between the wood beams. Very strange.
I didn't see an abject hatred there of Northerners, from the regular population. I'm not saying its not there, but its not in your face in 2013. In 1994, I could imagine it being worse. Truth is, you're just as likely to run into someone from NY as someone from NC. And I'm only referring to the immediate Triangle area- Cary, Raleigh, Apex, Chapel Hill, Durham, etc. Outlying areas in the Triangle, it starts to change, for sure. I was escorted to the edge of town in several different outlying areas, having NJ plates. The cops DO NOT like Northerners. Many of them assume you have drugs or cigarettes if you have northern plates.
Here's the hierarchy of who they dislike the most: NJ and Long Island by a landslide, then NYC, rest of NY, Philly and PA in general, CT/RI/MA/OH/MI about equal. Just my experience, anyway. No doubt based on recent shows depicting NJ and LI in a negative light. Anytime someone made a comment about NJ people being all like the people on Jersey Shore, I just asked them how their buddies on Lizard Lick Towing are
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I didn't see an abject hatred there of Northerners, from the regular population. I'm not saying its not there, but its not in your face in 2013. In 1994, I could imagine it being worse. Truth is, you're just as likely to run into someone from NY as someone from NC. And I'm only referring to the immediate Triangle area- Cary, Raleigh, Apex, Chapel Hill, Durham, etc. Outlying areas in the Triangle, it starts to change, for sure. I was escorted to the edge of town in several different outlying areas, having NJ plates. The cops DO NOT like Northerners. Many of them assume you have drugs or cigarettes if you have northern plates.
Here's the hierarchy of who they dislike the most: NJ and Long Island by a landslide, then NYC, rest of NY, Philly and PA in general, CT/RI/MA/OH/MI about equal. Just my experience, anyway. No doubt based on recent shows depicting NJ and LI in a negative light. Anytime someone made a comment about NJ people being all like the people on Jersey Shore, I just asked them how their buddies on Lizard Lick Towing are
What do you mean by "assume you have drugs or cigarettes", drugs I understand but cigarettes?
What do you mean by "assume you have drugs or cigarettes", drugs I understand but cigarettes?
I was asked about having cigarettes by 2 different cops. I smoke cigars when I drive and I guess they could smell it. Apparently, many Northerners buy cartons of cigs in the South and resell them. I think they're like $4 a pack down South but like $10 a pack in NY.
Cost of living was starting to skyrocket down there faster than up here (COL is higher in NC now than it is here in Rochester and most of upstate ny)
School system was absolute chaos...had to deal with reassignments, busing, and a whole lot of other issues with our two oldest kids and with a much younger one we wanted him to be in a more stable environment
We could read the writing on the wall; the area we lived in (Raleigh, NC) was seeing rampant un-checked growth that was more than it could handle and we knew this would only lead to bad news in the not so distant future (this was 3 years ago..and turns out many of the things we were concerned about did happen down there)
Weather was really overrated; sure it's mild in the winter; but summer was often miserably hot and humid and instead of staying cooped up indoors with the heat on most of winter; you'd just be cooped up indoors most of summer with the a/c cranked up. You can only go to the pool so many times before it just doesn't even phase you anymore.
Really, really wanted to be close to family again. We had been down there for nearly 13 years and enjoyed the experience; but it never quite felt like home. We HATED hearing about the big family get-togethers on holidays, birthdays, summer weekends; etc. and feeling left out.
There are many reasons people move to various parts of the country from other regions; and there are just as many reasons why some of these people move back. Different strokes for different folks. Just because some people have moved from the north to the south and returned because we didn't like it doesn't mean that you would have that same experience; but on the other hand just because many people have moved south and don't regret it at all and feel it was the best move they could have made doesn't mean that will be your experience either.
After reading this post I would like to ask a couple of questions. If the majority of you're family lived in North Carolina would you have moved back ? Are your children living in Rochester ? If any, what do you miss about North Carolina ? Do you regret the experience ?
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