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Old 07-12-2023, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Eastern Massachusetts
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I still see people wear masks. in the car alone in the supermarket and public transit when i wanted to avoid driving in Boston because of the summer tunnel fiasco.

i don't get coronavirus but if i went on a cruise I bet I would be the first to get norovirus any sickness with blowing ass I will get. in fact I have gotten norovirus you puke and get diarrhea at the same time. Immodium has saved me many times. though I'm lucky i don't have crohns or ibs knock on wood. you gain weight on cruises too many food temptations. i have heard of people gaining discusting amount of weight. i just lost 9 pounds in two weeks becoming a food nazi. no cruises for me any time soon.
I got Noro in March on cruise ship out of Baltimore. It was the first in 55+ cruises. I didn’t puke at all, but I didn’t want to eat at all and had severe dehydration and from time to time slept lethargically. My skin looked like I was 80.. for a day.

I’ve heard that Noro was mostly on ships from Northeast .. and Noro pandemic started in NJ.

Also as much as Covid measures on ships were not fun.. one thing that really worked (not sure it was working for Covid particularly) was .. mandatory washing hands and crew handling food in buffets. There was no Noro in 2021 and 2022 on ships.
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Old 08-10-2023, 04:42 PM
 
Location: The ghetto
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COVID on the rise again.

New variant EG.5 aka Eris.

What to know about Eris, the new COVID-19 subvariant sweeping the US
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Old 08-10-2023, 07:12 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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COVID on the rise again.

New variant EG.5 aka Eris.

What to know about Eris, the new COVID-19 subvariant sweeping the US
From what I’ve read, while the contagion is high, the morbidity is extremely low. Will ever strain of the common cold attract this kind of attention?

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Old 08-10-2023, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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COVID on the rise again.

New variant EG.5 aka Eris.

What to know about Eris, the new COVID-19 subvariant sweeping the US
Don't worry. Just mask up till October, when the new vaccines that target this strain will be available.
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Old 08-10-2023, 11:26 PM
 
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Don't worry. Just mask up till October, when the new vaccines that target this strain will be available.
It doesn't target Eris, but an earlier, still fairly closely related, variant of Omicron. By the time the new vaccine is available, Eris will have peaked and we will be off to yet another, probably less closely related, variant. Also note that Pfizer was able to ship the new vaccine a couple of months ago...so it is our government who is limiting access to shots. Mrna was supposed to be able to adjust to new variants quickly - but they (our governments) are on purpose dragging it out and limiting most of us to one shot a year with a, by then, outdated vaccine.
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Old 08-11-2023, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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It doesn't target Eris, but an earlier, still fairly closely related, variant of Omicron. By the time the new vaccine is available, Eris will have peaked and we will be off to yet another, probably less closely related, variant. Also note that Pfizer was able to ship the new vaccine a couple of months ago...so it is our government who is limiting access to shots. Mrna was supposed to be able to adjust to new variants quickly - but they (our governments) are on purpose dragging it out and limiting most of us to one shot a year with a, by then, outdated vaccine.
It's still a better match for the current variant than last year's booster. You're never going to be able to hit it "right on" in terms of vaccine rollouts and variants.
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Old 08-11-2023, 07:51 AM
 
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It doesn't target Eris, but an earlier, still fairly closely related, variant of Omicron. By the time the new vaccine is available, Eris will have peaked and we will be off to yet another, probably less closely related, variant. Also note that Pfizer was able to ship the new vaccine a couple of months ago...so it is our government who is limiting access to shots. Mrna was supposed to be able to adjust to new variants quickly - but they (our governments) are on purpose dragging it out and limiting most of us to one shot a year with a, by then, outdated vaccine.

It depends on your age. In my new geezer-dom, I imagine I'll be on a 6 month boost cycle indefinitely since the vaccine loses efficacy fairly quickly. The data is still pretty strong that a recent vaccination keeps you out of the hospital.


I'd rather the FDA err on the side of safety. That's the whole point of the approvals cycle.
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Old 08-11-2023, 12:44 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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I'd rather the FDA err on the side of safety. That's the whole point of the approvals cycle.
Sometimes the result of that is a successful drug and a lot of dead patients.
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Old 08-12-2023, 11:43 AM
 
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It depends on your age. In my new geezer-dom, I imagine I'll be on a 6 month boost cycle indefinitely since the vaccine loses efficacy fairly quickly. The data is still pretty strong that a recent vaccination keeps you out of the hospital.


I'd rather the FDA err on the side of safety. That's the whole point of the approvals cycle.
You forget that the reason they most likely are dragging their feet is not safety, but to sell the idea of a yearly booster, to be offered in time for "cold and flu season". Pfizer quite literally said they had the stock of the new booster to ship when the FDA had its meeting months ago. And if they want most people to only get one shot, they can't possibly release two different shots per year (which mRNA tech would definitely make possible), because people would (rightly) be complaining if they can only get one shot. Also, one shot is not enough for anyone - but they want to sell the idea that "healthy" people only need one shot like the flu shot. I suspect they think that otherwise nobody will want to get a shot if they are told they need two a year, since covid is circulating year round unlike the flu.
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Old 08-12-2023, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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You forget that the reason they most likely are dragging their feet is not safety, but to sell the idea of a yearly booster, to be offered in time for "cold and flu season". Pfizer quite literally said they had the stock of the new booster to ship when the FDA had its meeting months ago. And if they want most people to only get one shot, they can't possibly release two different shots per year (which mRNA tech would definitely make possible), because people would (rightly) be complaining if they can only get one shot. Also, one shot is not enough for anyone - but they want to sell the idea that "healthy" people only need one shot like the flu shot. I suspect they think that otherwise nobody will want to get a shot if they are told they need two a year, since covid is circulating year round unlike the flu.
This makes absolutely no sense at all. The number of boosters recommended will be based on when the effectiveness of the current vaccine drops. There is no "they" that only want most people to get only one shot. If more than one booster per year is cost effective by reducing severe disease, hospitalization, and death, then more than one will be recommended.

Flu does circulate year round. The incidence is just lower in the warmer months.

Covid is already demonstrating seasonality.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...0of%20seasonal
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