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Why would you vote "independent" (for a candidate that can't win) and throw your vote away?
I'm not a wild McCain fan (he wouldn't have been my choice to run, but he's what we have), but I am certainly not going to vote for a socialist.
If you vote for someone who can't win, it is the same as a vote for Obama. If you do not want socialism in America, then you have to defeat it. You do that by voting for a candidate who can win and not allow the socialist anywhere near the White House.
I know, I know...McCain may not be the conservative you want. But he can defeat the socialist candidate.
This is election is all about socialism, or capitalism. Bush isn't running. A cpitalist and a socialist are running. Look at it that way.
You know what to do.
I'm a resident of Massachusetts. I guess you can say voting for McCain would also be throwing my vote away because of this thing we have called the electoral college.
In your state of Ohio, your vote actually matters because you're in a swing state.
Which Barack Obama have you been listening to? His campaign has continually utilized guilt trips, envy, jealousy, and criticism of his opponents.
Don't pretend for one second that Obama has run a positive campaign focused on unity.
I'm not pretending. I guess we hear and see things differently. If it is raining, perhaps you say "Darn, I can't play golf and the weather stinks" while I say "Oh, what a blessing to know the grass and the flowers will get their nourishment today." Half empty vs half full. McCain/Palin is 100% empty. Obama/Biden is filled with promise!
Why vote for Obama? OK, where do I start. . .
1) the economy, it is the unwise policies of the the Republican administration (supported by McCain) that have led to the deregulation that has contributed to the mess we are currently in. Also, Bush / McCain, besides being "deregulators", have consistently given tax breaks to the huge corporations that beleive in outsourcing jobs overseas, paying their executives an excessive amount, etc.
2) Our country was MUCH BETTER OFF under the policies of of last Democratic President. . . despite the fact that he was working with a republican controlled congress. . . hint hint
3) This is the ONE THING that we can do to make a real move towards healing race relations in this country
4) If we (America) is going to regain respect in the world community, we MUST elect someone who is intelligent and thoughtful in dealing with international issues! There is ONE CLEAR CHOICE. . .
I could go one, but am late for a dinner appointment. . . if you need more reasons, ask again later. . .
Well, thanks for some meat on an answer...now, let's get to it...
1) The economy. America has been a capitalist society. Capitalist economies are cyclical. Sometimes an elected official gets the benefit of being in office at an up time, and since these cycles are pretty long, the person may not have had anything to do with the factors that contributed to the cyclical change. If you examine Mr. Obama's economic policies, here is what you will find:
He wants to lower taxes on the lower and middle classes - that's less revenue for the government
He wants $700B in new spending - that's more expense for the government
He refuses to identify any current programs to be cut - that's at least equal expense for the government vis a vis our run rate.
The net / net of this equation is that the government will need money!
Where will the money come from? Higher taxes on businesses (esp. corporations). And what will businesses do? Downsize to try to earn a profit. And what will downsizing mean? Fewer jobs for the middle and lower classes. And then, who cares what their income tax rate is, because if you don't earn any income, you won't pay any income tax.
And how will this situation be fixed? By increasing government spending and creating government jobs in the health care, energy, and education arenas. And what happens when the majority of voters work for the government and the minority work for private enterprise? The government gains more control over the citizens of the country instead of the other way around.
As to your other arguments re: healing race relations and gaining respect of foreign countries, I will address those later - I too have to get to dinner!
have you even had a longing to really relive the thrill of 1929 up close.
he is the only one talking about pulling out of bagdad. wars cost money we are going broke fast.
obama 08
So does all the social programs Obama wants to enact. So does all the foreign aid Obama supports.
So does opening the social security to illegals.
So does granting amnesty to illegals because it only fuels others to do the same.
Pulling out now can and will have huge impacts down the road. We are there. The problem that exists is real. The fact we shouldn't have gone into Iraq is no longer part of the decision tree. We must ensure stability before we leave. Even Obama says this.
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Well, thanks for some meat on an answer...now, let's get to it...
1) The economy. America has been a capitalist society. Capitalist economies are cyclical. Sometimes an elected official gets the benefit of being in office at an up time, and since these cycles are pretty long, the person may not have had anything to do with the factors that contributed to the cyclical change. If you examine Mr. Obama's economic policies, here is what you will find:
He wants to lower taxes on the lower and middle classes - that's less revenue for the government
He wants $700B in new spending - that's more expense for the government
He refuses to identify any current programs to be cut - that's at least equal expense for the government vis a vis our run rate.
The net / net of this equation is that the government will need money!
Where will the money come from? Higher taxes on businesses (esp. corporations). And what will businesses do? Downsize to try to earn a profit. And what will downsizing mean? Fewer jobs for the middle and lower classes. And then, who cares what their income tax rate is, because if you don't earn any income, you won't pay any income tax.
And how will this situation be fixed? By increasing government spending and creating government jobs in the health care, energy, and education arenas. And what happens when the majority of voters work for the government and the minority work for private enterprise? The government gains more control over the citizens of the country instead of the other way around.
As to your other arguments re: healing race relations and gaining respect of foreign countries, I will address those later - I too have to get to dinner!
i GUESS WHEN PROVIDED WITH excellent reasons to vote Obama you listen to the hate retoric of the loser running against him~ so instead of a sincere effort to gain insite you are just baiting ~ that is why you are gonna lose!
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