Ferguson discussion thread

[Rubi3]

Michael Brown was a criminal. He was not an innocent teenager just hanging out with friends. Those of you who refuse to look at the truth will raise more young Michael Browns to commit more crimes. Hooray for crime!!!

[Delahanty]

That "grand juries almost never fail to indict" is a crock of baloney. When they don't in these high profile cases, it's often because the DA wimped out and presented a case to the grand jury that never should have gone that far (i.e., as with Tony Stewart). Thankfully, the grand jury did its job in this case, too.

The other crock of baloney? The OPs political cartoon. This case had nothing to do with racial profiling, as even a cursory reading of the decision reveals.

[caligirlz]

What a beautiful story. Thanks for posting.

[gg]

Glad she made a pile of money on the riots. It paid off for her and I am sure she is grateful for the rioting.

[gg]

I knew he wouldn't be indicted. Why would he be? Known robber muscles up to victim (store clerk) Then he walks down the middle of the street showing all what he stole. He gets confronted by a cop and tells the cop to f-off. The cop questions him more and he tries to take the cops gun. Game over. He clearly caused his own death. Plain and simple.

[piscesinphoenix]

Originally Posted by ChicagoMeO

i'd like to know - why were the police not stopping the people from burning down the 12 or more businesses? would that have caused a worse problem and they just had to sacrifice property over people? or what?

They probably didn't want to be attacked and killed for protecting (other blacks') property. What's the point? Who cares if the rioters on a rampage destroy the whole community - of their own, btw - and make darn sure the stereotype they're rioting against is branded in everybody's mind. Here's the message: Don't stop a black person from doing whatever they want or they'll riot and steal you blind and burn your house or business down. Sorta like the KKK in reverse (that one ought to get me banned).

[k350]

Not surprised, no crime was committed.

Of course there could have been a special prosecutor brought in to rule in favor of a trial to appease the lynch mob, but the trial would have resulted in a not guilty verdict, the same as with the Zimmerman case which should have never went to trial.

As for the cartoon, no racial profiling at all. I want someone to explain how it was racial profiling;

1. Is it not a fact the Brown was walking in the middle of the street while he should have been on the sidewalk? Is it racial profiling to tell Brown to get on the sidewalk?

2. Was it racial profiling when Brown attacked Wilson? I will give it credence it was racial profiling on Brown's part because the cop was white, would Brown have attacked a black cop? Did Brown attack Wilson because Wilson was white?

[marilyn220]

Originally Posted by jetgraphics

My my my, such a litany of contrived nonsense.

A FELON (robbery, assault)

Brown has never been arrested, so he's not a "felon". Also, the Ferguson Chief of Police said Darren NEVER received a call regarding the so-called robbery, so Darren's story on this is bogus.

Another thing, the owners of the store through their attorney said they NEVER called the cops regarding Brown taking anything, so the police Chief, in trying to smear Brown LIED about this. They have NEVER released the 911 tapes of this so-called "robbery" either. Why? Because the store never called them.

who was walking in the middle of the street obstructing traffic (Misdemeanor),

Agreed. Only people outside of NYC cares about this stuff.

was told to move to the sidewalk (insult to blackness!),

Where are you getting this from? YOUR black friends have told you this?? Or was it in the grand jury documents or in Wilson's interview with George, because I completely missed the part where asking a black person to get on the sidewalk was "an insult to blackness".

And I'm BLACK by the way.

Do you mean an insult to blacks in Ferguson??

and when the officer realized that the man was a suspect,

Yeah, this would work if it was TRUE. Wilson NEVER knew Brown was a "suspect", because the store NEVER called the cops to report him for anything, so NO CALL was ever made to Wilson regarding Brown and his friend.

reversed his vehicle to investigate. Subsequently, the suspected FELON assaulted the police officer

So, Brown, a man with NO CRIMINAL RECORD or high on any hard narcotics, just took it upon himself to assault this 6'4", 210 officer all because he asked him to get on the sidewalk?? And you believe this??

and attempted to escape (FUGITIVE from justice)

Okay...only because Brown isn't here to give his side of events.

, then returned to attempt assault (Felony) once more, and was shot.

Okay now.

According to Wilson (his VERSION), he grabbed arm and pulled it into the vehicle. He told Brown he would shoot him, if he didn't stop punching him in his face (LOL), then Brown (remember, he's not on heavy narcotics & no history of mental illness) tells a COP that he's "too much of a p_____y to shoot". Somehow, Wilson was able to grab his revolver and shoot Brown while in the car.

This is when Brown supposedly ran AWAY from Wilson. Wilson claims he told Brown to stop running or that he would keep shooting. <<<This isn't true. Wilson kept shooting at Brown as he RAN and even when Brown turned around, he was STILL shooting at him. He only stopped after he shot Brown in the head and he stopped moving.

All of this happened in 60 SECONDS (according to Wilson) and he expended 12 bullets w/6 hitting Brown.

Wilson will have people believe that Brown (no history of mental illness, no arrests, not on hard drugs) would charge the officer like a bull while the officer has continued to shoot him non-stop from the time he ran away from the vehicle.

Did Mr Brown "deserve" (to be worthy, or merit) to be shot?
He merited PUNISHMENT, after conviction. But remember, Mr Brown was not cooperating.

I don't believe this. I don't know what happened that day on the street, but there is no way it happened the way Wilson said it did.

I grew up in NYC when it was truly hardcore. I knew guys that weren't afraid of a damn thing.

But NONE OF THEM would EVER take on a police officer in the manner in which Wilson claims Brown did, ESPECIALLY if they were a "robbery suspect".

Thus the officer was JUSTIFIED in shooting Mr Brown, because of Mr Brown's behavior, not his race.

I don't know if he shot him cause he was black or if he was just a messed up cop. But the story he's given on Brown "grunting", "bulking up", "looking like Hulk Hogan" and having "demonic eyes" is something someone with skizophrenia or suffering from mental illness would say.

That is if he's SERIOUS about his encounter with Brown.

[marilyn220]

Originally Posted by gg

I knew he wouldn't be indicted. Why would he be? Known robber muscles up to victim (store clerk) Then he walks down the middle of the street showing all what he stole. He gets confronted by a cop and tells the cop to f-off. The cop questions him more and he tries to take the cops gun. Game over. He clearly caused his own death. Plain and simple.

Do you really, seriously BELIEVE THIS??

[piscesinphoenix]

Originally Posted by animalcrazy

Yep they're still protesting with their arms raised in spite of the facts that show Michael Brown was not killed with his hands up. I don't understand the mentality.

The mindset seems to be "I'm a victim, but I'll kill you if you don't think so."