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Old 01-02-2023, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Northeast states
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I did see an article about overall crime being up 25% in NYC. Not sure if that included property crimes.
Every crime is up expected shootings, homicides
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Old 01-02-2023, 10:19 AM
 
Location: NYC, VA, JP
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Every crime is up expected shootings, homicides
NYC is probably the only city in America where there's overwhelmingly more stabbings than shootings. Stootings are down yet felony assaults steadily increased.
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Old 01-02-2023, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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NYC is probably the only city in America where there's overwhelmingly more stabbings than shootings. Stootings are down yet felony assaults steadily increased.
Boston is too. Anywhere with strict gun laws will.
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Old 01-02-2023, 12:43 PM
 
Location: 215
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Detroit
Homicide Rate: 48/100k
Shooting Rate: 149/100k

Kansas City
Homicide Rate: 33/100k
Shooting Rate: 137/100K

Louisville
Homicide Rate: 41/100k
Shooting Rate: 109/100k

Hartford CT
Homicide Rate: 32/100k
Shooting Rate: 112/100k

Newark NJ
Homicide Rate: 16/100k
Shooting Rate: 72/100k

Rochester NY
Homicide Rate: 36/100k
Shooting Rate: 165/100k

Cincinnati
Homicide Rate: *20/100k (last updated 10/4)
Shooting Rate: 108/100k

Indianapolis
Homicide Rate: 24/100k
Shooting Rate: 74/100k
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Old 01-02-2023, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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Breaking it down for all cities might be true in a statistical sense, I'm just not sure if that can be applied to reality though. Jackson and Gary are much smaller in population vs. D.C. Washington would naturally have more non dangerous sides/hoods compared to Jackson.
Jackson just has more bad blocks in relation to it's size but they're both most likely the same amount of danger with it even leaning towards the DC hoods.
The way I look at it is like this... In California we got South central LA and Compton.
Compton always had the higher murder rates compared to LA but the most infamous gangs in the area are usually the big ones in South Central or the Latino ones in West LA.
Yes it can be applied in reality. The both have the same urban socioeconomic functions like the rest of metros/micros nationwide.
Both can be broken down geographically sections.
Both have sections were there's incidents in the highs to lows.
Both have neighborhoods with high violent rates & blockish.

There's more publicity, studies, & documentaries ad nausem for bigger cities despite finding similar if not identical themes in mid-size cities.
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Old 01-02-2023, 04:15 PM
 
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I haven't seen the final numbers for Cleveland/Cuyahoga, but going off an article from Dec. 16 where Cleveland was at 155 and the county was at 213 (so 58 were outside the city), I'm estimating that the total was in the 220 range, which would be a decrease of 30-plus from the last two years.

Since I don't recall seeing any of the homicides being outside the city in the last two weeks, I'm going to say that the numbers for Cleveland/Cuyahoga are something like this:

Cleveland - 170 (374,000) - 45 per 100,000
Euclid - 13 (49,000) - 26
East Cleveland - 12 (14,000) - 84

I'm not sure on these next two, but I'm going to take an educated guess that Garfield Heights/Maple Heights combined for about 10. Together, those cities have a population of 53,000, so a rate about 19 per 100,000.

All together, that would put Cleveland/East Cleveland/Euclid/Maple Heights/Garfield Heights at 205 homicides in about 491,000 people so a rate of 42. That's still horrible and not much, if any, improvement from 2021.

But the rest of the county saw a big dip. Those areas went from roughly 40 down to 20. For rates, the remainder of Cuyahoga has a population of about 772,000 so 20 homicides would give it a rate of less than 3 per 100,000, so you're talking numbers that put it on par with some of the "safest" big cities, with demographics that are similar with other central cities that have 2-3-4 times the homicide rate.

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Old 01-02-2023, 06:29 PM
 
Location: the future
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Detroit
Homicide Rate: 48/100k
Shooting Rate: 149/100k

Kansas City
Homicide Rate: 33/100k
Shooting Rate: 137/100K

Louisville
Homicide Rate: 41/100k
Shooting Rate: 109/100k

Hartford CT
Homicide Rate: 32/100k
Shooting Rate: 112/100k

Newark NJ
Homicide Rate: 16/100k
Shooting Rate: 72/100k

Rochester NY
Homicide Rate: 36/100k
Shooting Rate: 165/100k

Cincinnati
Homicide Rate: *20/100k (last updated 10/4)
Shooting Rate: 108/100k

Indianapolis
Homicide Rate: 24/100k
Shooting Rate: 74/100k
Gotta be a record for Louisville
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Old 01-02-2023, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Southern California suburb
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Gotta be a record for Louisville

Woah I just noticed that. Louisville, Kentucky is on fire like Est Gee say in his rap.
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Old 01-03-2023, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Chi 'burbs=>Tucson=>Naperville=>Chicago
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Chicago

2022 finished with 692 murders.

2021 was 794
2020 was 778
2019 was 502

So, 2022 was better than "covid" years but still substantially worse than pre-Covid.
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Old 01-03-2023, 11:39 AM
 
Location: NYC, VA, JP
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Gotta be a record for Louisville
Idk where he got that number from, but there's no way. Louisville is more in line with Indy.
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