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2010 data is just too old. Doesn’t do anything for me anymore. Especially for some of these New England cities. Many of them had insignificant black populations in 1980/1990.
The globe wrote a story about the diversity gap between school populations in cape cod and their teachers. Many Black American and Jamaicans but more so Salvadoran and people of mixed race (black/white) on cape cod in the younger generation. Which makes no sense to me given how expensive it is. But speaking anecdotally yea I have seen this. Quite a few majority-minority schools down there and the article include concrete data and interactive maps highlighting the demographic diversity. A place like the Provincetown school district is 26% African American now... in 2010 it was 6%.
"Some districts have been slow to address the problem head on. Others say they have struggled for years to overcome the Cape’s reputation as a haven for white retirees and vacationers — a turnoff for some job seekers of color that persists in spite of striking demographic changes.
To solve the problem, many Cape districts are doubling down on recruitment in their own backyards, seeking homegrown teaching candidates of color who already feel at ease in the tourist mecca."
Pay and diversity are also Better in Boston and Cambridge, wages are not in line with COL on the cape and you're more isolated from colleagues.
The story profiles one black woman from the Bronx who was offered a job teaching in Barnstable in 1995 and almost dismissed it due to tot the image of the cape as every white but said she met students of color and felt they needed that role model. 25 years later she's asking who would be here if not for me, whos the next in line?. Her district has gone from 91% white to 62% white in those 25 years. It was 75% white in 2016. Reasons like this leave me feeling like 2010 is not a reliable indicator. Im just waiting on the census.
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2010 data is just too old. Doesn’t do anything for me anymore. Especially for some of these New England cities. Many of them had insignificant black populations in 1980/1990.
The globe wrote a story about the diversity gap between school populations in cape cod and their teachers. Many Black American and Jamaicans but more so Salvadoran and people of mixed race (black/white) on cape cod in the younger generation. Which makes no sense to me given how expensive it is. But speaking anecdotally yea I have seen this. Quite a few majority-minority schools down there and the article include concrete data and interactive maps highlighting the demographic diversity. A place like the Provincetown school district is 26% African American now... in 2010 it was 6%.
"Some districts have been slow to address the problem head on. Others say they have struggled for years to overcome the Cape’s reputation as a haven for white retirees and vacationers — a turnoff for some job seekers of color that persists in spite of striking demographic changes.
To solve the problem, many Cape districts are doubling down on recruitment in their own backyards, seeking homegrown teaching candidates of color who already feel at ease in the tourist mecca."
Pay and diversity are also Better in Boston and Cambridge, wages are not in line with COL on the cape and you're more isolated from colleagues.
The story profiles one black woman from the Bronx who was offered a job teaching in Barnstable in 1995 and almost dismissed it due to tot the image of the cape as every white but said she met students of color and felt they needed that role model. 25 years later she's asking who would be here if not for me, whos the next in line?. Her district has gone from 91% white to 62% white in those 25 years. It was 75% white in 2016. Reasons like this leave me feeling like 2010 is not a reliable indicator. Im just waiting on the census.
2010 is old, but it is also the last official census year available. So, it can still offer some insight.
That source also shows trends in population growth that could also be important to note for those interested in this thread.
This is why many districts in NY State, particularly urban districts of various sizes and probably select suburban/small town/rural SD's are looking for more black and other teachers of color due to the difference between the student and teacher demographics.
This is why many districts in NY State, particularly urban districts of various sizes and probably select suburban/small town/rural SD's are looking for more black and other teachers of color due to the difference between the student and teacher demographics.
I think NY does a little better than MA due to the size of NYC's district and being a more diverse state in general. 44% of NY students are white compared to 57% in MA (RI ~54%, CT ~51%).
80% of NY teachers are white compare to 91.5% in MA.
in NYC about 40% of teachers are minorities, in Boston 41.8% of teachers are minorities.
Black people don't often become teachers I think mostly just due to the low reward for a fairly long licensure process and long hours.
Just to add, places like Harrisburg, Chester, Camden, Elizabeth, Hempstead, Yonkers, Albany, Worcester, Springfield and Providence, among others, have at least 20,000 black residents.
Just to add, places like Harrisburg, Chester, Camden, Elizabeth, Hempstead, Yonkers, Albany, Worcester, Springfield and Providence, among others, have at least 20,000 black residents.
I think NY does a little better than MA due to the size of NYC's district and being a more diverse state in general. 44% of NY students are white compared to 57% in MA (RI ~54%, CT ~51%).
80% of NY teachers are white compare to 91.5% in MA.
in NYC about 40% of teachers are minorities, in Boston 41.8% of teachers are minorities.
Black people don't often become teachers I think mostly just due to the low reward for a fairly long licensure process and long hours.
I agree with this and I think many believe the stereotype that teachers aren't paid well, which isn't true.
Few people from out of state move to Brockton but it does happen. Mostly people from inner-city New York City itself in my experience. The professional crowd prefers the burbs. But there are young people native to Boston who start their lives out in Brockton.
Its still predominately Haitian and Cape Verdean but there are African Americans, Nigerians, Siera Lenoneans, Jamaicans, Angolans all in noticeable numbers. Even a few Ugandans.
The vast majority of the white population remaining in Brockton is what one would think of as the traditional Bosotn white population. Irish, middle class, socially conservative/moderate. The last mayor elected was n Irishman who narrowly beat out a very young Cape Verdean man. They vote as a big bloc, and dominate offices while pandering to the black majority at every chance. I will credit them this the yre more ocmorortable and familiar with black people than their counterparts in Bosotn-jsut due to the integrated nature and the demographics.
This is a short film by the Boston Globe on Brockton High Football dealing with COVID restrictions on and off the field. Youll see more African American sounding names: "Nayvon Reid, Devonte Medley, Carlito Weaver" etc
Brockton despite being far less white than Boston has a higher share of white students in its schools (15.5%). This is because the white population there really doesn't have as many alternatives nor are they as educated in the first place.
Much of Brockton is ultra-mundane and urban but with a worn ,honky-tonk feel. Its not a particularly attractive place but the median house price is like 40% of the Greater Bosotn Average. After years of serious violent crime, its become pretty tame for the time being.
I agree with this and I think many believe the stereotype that teachers aren't paid well, which isn't true.
Salaries depend on the state and local school district.
At one point I considered teaching as a profession, but it just comes with too many year-to-year disruptions and uncertainties. And God forbid I were to be a teacher now in a diverse or predominantly White school district with conservatives making CRT the new Red Scare. If I *had* chosen that career route in the past, it would most likely be in the rearview mirror at this point.
Salaries depend on the state and local school district.
At one point I considered teaching as a profession, but it just comes with too many year-to-year disruptions and uncertainties. And God forbid I were to be a teacher now in a diverse or predominantly White school district with conservatives making CRT the new Red Scare. If I *had* chosen that career route in the past, it would most likely be in the rearview mirror at this point.
Very good points, as a lot, if not all of this likely comes down to the state and district.
I think in those cities listed above, I think I would lean towards some of this being a non issue, but you never know.
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