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If you must mock a whole city. Be reasonable and stop extremism unless you want to play in the Politics forum as they might saying -- throw a whole city in the trash. I would never say that for Philly and would you?
You are notorious for throwing cities not named Chicago in the trash.
You are notorious for throwing cities not named Chicago in the trash.
What cities? I only post in general in the past on Philadelphia and actually avoid posting on it. I already have on Atlanta, Houston and NYC. others much lessor did I comment. You can defend Philadelphia and I avoid adding 2- cents. If one might mock a city as Chicago or lessen it for say crime like here, but from Philadelphia and region? I do see that as a bit hypocritical. By Population and murders per 100,000. Chi or Phil are not far apart. One just happens to be much larger.
I avoid the Philadelphia forum and you rarely post there for some reason as a local. Though you will defend Philadelphia in many other forums and that is fine. I still read other forums far more then I choose to post. Most times I start a post and never then actually post them in the thread. I determine if some get bent by it? Best to just forghetaboutit. Most times I keep in mind the posters mindset and history of post in my reply as you seem to claim you did of me. I then avoid what will set them off most. Just not worth it. I think many people did. Some just let it all fly.
On numbers of homicides as this thread is on. No one should say a city is beyond saying hope or help. Especially if you live in a city that stats show a homicide rate of the same or even higher level of Chicago.
You can compare Philadelphia's to Chicago's by population and race. No one should be from Philly and hype Chicago's while ignoring your own? Just saying and no city should be labeled as if doomed. Why I responded to the other post. You certainly would defend Philly if called doomed also.
North Battleford, SK: 5 (36 per 100K)
Bonnyville, AB: 2 (33.4 per 100K)
Dryden, ON: 2 (25.8 per 100K)
Iqaluit, NU: 2 (26.1 per 100K
Val-des-Monts, QC: 2 (17.26 per 100K)
Wetaskiwin, AB: 2 (15.8 per 100K)
Langley, BC: 4 (15.45 per 100K)
Thompson, Manitoba: 2 (14.7 per 100K)
Prince Albert, SK: 4 (11.4 per 100K)
Yellowknife, NWT: 2 (10.2 per 100K)
Thunder Bay, ON: 7 (6.36 per 100K)
Val d’Or, QB: 2 (6.27 per 100K)
Cochrane, AB: 1 (3.86 per 100K)
Frederickton, NB: 2 (3.44 per 100K)
Regina, SK: 8 (3.50 per 100K)
Moncton, NB: 2 (2.35 per 100K)
Winnipeg, MB: 21 (2.80 per 100K)
Lethbridge, AB: 2 (2.17 per 100K)
Brantford, ON: 2 (1.95 per 100K)
Shawinigian, QC: 1 (1.9 per 100K
Saskatoon, SK: 5 (1.83 per 100K)
Brandon, MB: 1 (1.72 per 100K)
St Johns, NF: 2 (1.6 per 100K)
Medicine Hat, AB: 1 (1.58 per 100K)
Grand Praire, AB: 1 (1.57 per 100K)
Fort McMurray, AB: 1 (1.5 per 100K)
Sarnia, ON: 1 (1.4 per 100K)
Toronto, ON: 37 (1.37 per 100K)
Windsor, ON: 3 (1.28 per 100K)
Hamilton, ON: 7 (1.20 per 100K
Calgary, AB: 16 (1.19 per 100K)
Halifax, NS: 5 (1.16 per 100K)
Niagara Falls, ON: 1 (1.13 per 100K)
Edmonton, AB: 11 (1.12 per 100K)
Vancouver, BC: 7 (1.03 per 100K)
Oakville, ON : 2 (0.94 per 100K)
Milton, ON: 1 (0.90 per 100K)
Kitchener, ON: 2 (0.84 per 100K
Burnaby, BC: 2(0.8 per 100K)
Surrey, BC: 4 (0.77 per 100K
St Catherines, ON: 1 (0.75 per 100K)
Abbotsford, BC: 1(0.67 per 100K)
Montreal, QC: 9 (0.50 per 100K)
Burlington, ON: 1 (0.48 per 100K
Ottawa, ON: 4 (0.40 per 100K)
Brampton, ON: 2 (0.37 per 100K
Mississauga, ON: 3 (0.36 per 100K)
Gatineau, QC: 1 (0.35 per 100K)
Markham, ON:1 (0.29 per 100K)1
London, On: 2 (0.52 per 100K)
Lavalle, QC: 1 (0.22 per 100K)
Quebec City, QC: 1 (0.18 per 100K)
NYC 208
LA 147
Chicago 377----on par with 2016 and 2017
Philly 219
Bmore 175
Indianapolis 118
Denver 44
Detroit 142
Saint Louis 119
Cleveland, Ohio 68
Pittsburgh 20
Charlotte, NC 59
Louisville, KY Metro 72
Raleigh, NC 14
Columbus Ohio 67
Minneapolis 32---same time in 2019 it was 16
Memphis 144
Albuquerque 34
Las Vegas Metro 44
Austin, TX 22
Portland, Ore 17
Kansas City 100
DC 101----same time in 2019 it was 81 end year with 166
Jacksonville 101----same time last year it was 88
Orlando 30
Tacoma, WA 12
Anchorage, Alaska is at 6 same time last year it was 18
Camden, NJ 8---same time last year it was 19
Jackson, MS 56
Saginaw, MI 11
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 56
Toledo 27
Lansing MI 4
Kingston is at 2( Ulster County 45 mins south of Albany)
Manchester, NH 3
Charleston, SC 8
Columbus, GA 21
Greenville, SC 17
KNOXVILLE, TN 21
Wilmington, NC 6
Lexington, KY 13
East St.Louis IL 9
Albany, New York 9
Fayetteville, NC 11
Cedar Rapids, Iowa 9
LINCOLN, Neb 4
Gary, Indiana 27
Spokane. WA 7
Tacoma, WA 17
Youngstown, Ohio 17
If you must mock a whole city. Be reasonable and stop extremism unless you want to play in the Politics forum as they might saying -- throw a whole city in the trash. I would never say that for Philly and would you?
I don't mean that entirely because Chicago will always be a great city no matter what and will always have it's core culture. I just mean we might as well forget about Chicago ever being taken seriously by the rest of the world for its true class and culture if it is always going to have 700+ murders a year because if that happens, Chicago will only be seen by 90% of the world for its crime and shootings and gangster rappers. Basically it will be viewed like New York was in the 80s but way worse because Chicago's not seen as the wondrous capital of the world, a reputation that New York did not lose even in its worst years.
I don't mean that entirely because Chicago will always be a great city no matter what and will always have it's core culture. I just mean we might as well forget about Chicago ever being taken seriously by the rest of the world for its true class and culture if it is always going to have 700+ murders a year because if that happens, Chicago will only be seen by 90% of the world for its crime and shootings and gangster rappers. Basically it will be viewed like New York was in the 80s but way worse because Chicago's not seen as the wondrous capital of the world, a reputation that New York did not lose even in its worst years.
Chicago was never seen as a wondrous capital of the world or the US. It merely went head to head with NYC way back before NYC and Brooklyn and Boroughs merged then it was not destined to overtake it. Too interior and seen as more severe winters always. That still effects it.
No one ever says it would be a wondrous capital since the early 20th century at best. Now if it was East Coast or especially, in a milder waterfront environment? Perhaps it really would have taken off. It still had to be where it is to be what it did grow into.
Again, crime is not new in hoods it has had for decades and as most American cities had. Many World cities have slums actually built as slums for most of their existence. Many evolved to be great to degrees. Such cities as Rio and even Mexico city since you mentioned Mexico or someone did for crime.
Most US cities never were destined to be a Paris or London or even NYC. They each were their key city of a Nation. Many other cities gave their niche in world renown status for even just in past histories and glory.
Some note if even Philadelphia could or should have been destined for a more renown nature and size especially it should have remained the Nation's Capitol. Then mighty NYC also said otherwise as it became the premier city.
Crime to homeless blemish a so called greatness they had or should have/could have. Some boast for our rising sunbelt cities now. They may grow quickly and even have degrees of greatness and value. So far in the world NONE stand out as being a new Great wondrous capital of the world in the making.
Chicago and Philadelphia were overshadowed by might NYC as the key entry for immigrants for the fastest growth period of out Nation. It was destined to be what it is apparently. LA has clearly its niche too. The legacy of Chi and Phil and other cities, still remains and exist in degrees. Their cores are still 2 of the best in the Nation. Neither are claimed to be tops in one category. Each has its blemishes as most US cities have.
In a way, Chicago has a higher value or knowledge of in the world. Then it did 40 50 yrs ago. It still is not all about crime either. Just the Al Capone era to Blues it is known for and another American city of skyscrapers that are really common in all the world now.Not merely crime as you claim. Even the Bean ( Cloud Gate ) sculpture became a social media mentioned thing some note for the city and copied in China. The city still gets credit for the first official skyscraper also and American noteworthy Architecture to those who it matters for in interest and held the tallest building for nearly a 1/4 century.
Guess a side topic is not too far off topic over homicide rates alone hopefully.
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